Negative Reputation.

[Minor_Threat]

A lot of people say that, and then proceed to accuse me of giving them neg rep when I didn't or accuse someone else when I was the one who gave neg rep.

I'm sure that happens, when in doubt blame Borror0!

But really, the rep system can be outlined like so.

-Too much neg rep makes your posts auto-review by mods.
-Must acquire 1500 rep to leave neg rep.

Seems like a pretty pointless system to me, of course it will have people that abuse it and rightly so as there is really no consequences either way, I'm honestly surprised to see how much it was used in this community.

[Creeper]

I agree about the comments, but keeping anonymity is important. Otherwise, you'll just create drama.

Very true, non-anonymity is a HORRIBLE idea.

The rep system is working out a lot better than I thought it would, that is to say... well... I don't know. It's fun at least!!!

If someone has a red bar you can rest assured they have contributed no useful information–that's got to count for something, but join date is usually what I go by. It's funny that having a recent join date and negative rep seem to have something in common. I wonder why that is?

If having negative rep really bothers you just post something funny and wait.

[Borror0]

Seems like a pretty pointless system to me

It's probably useful at rejecting non-desirable elements to the community (ie trolls), so it has its use.

However, I'll agree that it's completely pointless on established users. A few posters that I personally consider total jerks have fairly high reputation. I could be much, much better.

[Cedwin]

If having negative rep really bothers you just post something funny and wait.

That's why it's a broken system. Positive rep should only be given to people who answer questions or help people out. If you help a person out, they mark your answer as correct or helpful, and you get a rep point.

This forum reputation system is more like a popularity system.

[Creeper]

This forum reputation system is more like a popularity system.

True, and popularity and reputation have several things in common. If you look though, more positive rep is dealt out to people who post funny but otherwise, useless junk.

[Cedwin]

True, and popularity and reputation have several things in common. If you look though, more positive rep is dealt out to people who post funny but otherwise, useless junk.

Who would you trust with answering a question about drugs?

A movie star, or a doctor?

Difficult question huh?

[Creeper]

Who would you trust with answering a question about drugs?

A movie star, or a doctor?

Difficult question huh?

The movie star would definatly have more personal experience.

[Memnir]

There are many different ways to contribute to a community - humor often being one of the most appreciated. Making somebody laugh can help out their real-life day just as much as answering a game mechanics question can help their ingame life. If people did not find value the post, they would not give + Rep for it - simple as that. Saying that Rep should not be given to a post of any sort is rather short-sighted, imho.

Granted, I've gotten a good deal of my Rep from making people laugh - but I'd say the same thing even if I were in the red.

[Borror0]

Who would you trust with answering a question about drugs?

A movie star, or a doctor?

While I get where you're getting at, you're missing the point.

Being insightful, making good suggestions, being funny or being helpful will make you more popular. All of those things that are beneficial to the community and things that Turbine should encourage. Likewise, spouting nonsense, insulting, giving poor advices or starting fights will make you less popular. That is, there is a certain correlation between popularity and reliability. It's not a correlation of one, but no system is perfect.

[Creeper]

Granted, I've gotten a good deal of my Rep from making people laugh - but I'd say the same thing even if I were in the red.

Who needs drugs anyway? Laughter IS the best medicine!

[Gunga]

Publicity, promote confrontation.

Anonimity on the internet is creating an entire socially inept generation.

They can still hide behind screen names, but it is a start when they can be identified in game.

Unless you don't play the game, then you can hide pretty well. Ahem.

[Cedwin]

That is, there is a certain correlation between popularity and reliability. It's not a correlation of one, but no system is perfect.

I understand what the system was put in place for, but I don't agree that you can correlate popularity with reliability. Someone could easily make a very funny thread, gaining them tons of rep, and not know a thing about the game and it's mechanics. Then if that person tried to answer a question, and got it wrong, players may lean toward the wrong answer because of the high rep.

It does "kind-of" work, as far as keeping "most" trouble makers from gaining high rep, but I think it could be improved.

[Letrii]

I have neg rep linked to these 2 posts according to UserCP.

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...9&postcount=76
http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=47

[Borror0]

I understand what the system was put in place for, but I don't agree that you can correlate popularity with reliability. [...]

It does "kind-of" work, as far as keeping "most" trouble makers from gaining high rep, but I think it could be improved.

Do you know what correlate means? You are contradicting yourself in those two sentences,

I have neg rep linked to these 2 posts according to UserCP.

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...9&postcount=76
http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=47

#76 probably got you neg rep for the non-sequitur or for being spam (since you didn't reply to anything in the thread. I'll agree it's a weird one to single out.

#47 most likely got you neg rep because it's dismissive and does not contribute to the discussion in any way.

[Cedwin]

Do you know what correlate means? You are contradicting yourself in those two sentences,

Yes, and no.

By "kind-of" working, it doesn't keep all of the trouble makers in the red with negative rep. All they have to do is make a funny post, and get a ton of positive rep, and then go back to trolling.

(plus it's almost 4 am, I tend to contradict more with lack of sleep)

[Borror0]

By "kind-of" working, it doesn't keep all of the trouble makers in the red with negative rep. All they have to do is make a funny post, and get a ton of positive rep, and then go back to trolling.

Unless your name is Memnir, you don't get a zillion positive rep for being funny. Being funny pays more than normal posts, but it won't magically earn you 500 rep.

(plus it's almost 4 am, I tend to contradict more with lack of sleep)

Meh. Man up!!

[Cedwin]

Unless your name is Memnir, you don't get a zillion positive rep for being funny. Being funny pays more than normal posts, but it won't magically earn you 500 rep.

Psh, I got over 100 rep for saying "I want to be a druid so I can morph into a chest and loot myself". That one line got me more rep than all posts combined where I've genuinely helped people with game issues.

C'est la vie.

[Borror0]

Psh, I got over 100 rep for saying "I want to be a druid so I can morph into a chest and loot myself".

To be honest, 100 rep only goes so far. I can hit, from what I heard, for -35 rep. Takes three or four people like me who don't like one of your post and you're back in the red.

If you're trolling fairly often, it will go down pretty quickly. Also, if you have a reputation for being a troll, people will tend to be more 'generous' when it comes to neg rep and you'll get neg rep for relatively minor offenses just because others don't like you.There still is infraction points, too.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the system is perfect (or even well-designed). But, there is a correlation between popularity and reliability.

That one line got me more rep than all posts combined where I've genuinely helped people with game issues.

I got over 700 rep for User-made Dev Tracker, during DDO beta, at least 500 rep for DDOwiki related stuff. Ron was the second most reputable poster after me, for a long time, even though he rarely posts. Jerry also had a very high rep for his podcast, too. So, it's not like being helpful didn't pay off, at least for some of us.

C'est la vie.

I want to congratulate you for spelling it properly. It seems something pretty hard to do for non-native French speakers, because I see it misspelled about 90% of the time.

[Junts]

To be honest, 100 rep only goes so far. I can hit, from what I heard, for -35 rep. Takes three or four people like me who don't like one of your post and you're back in the red.

If you're trolling fairly often, it will go down pretty quickly. Also, if you have a reputation for being a troll, people will tend to be more 'generous' when it comes to neg rep and you'll get neg rep for relatively minor offenses just because others don't like you.There still is infraction points, too.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the system is perfect (or even well-designed). But, there is a correlation between popularity and reliability.

I got over 700 rep for User-made Dev Tracker, during DDO beta, at least 500 rep for DDOwiki related stuff. Ron was the second most reputable poster after me, for a long time, even though he rarely posts. Jerry also had a very high rep for his podcast, too. So, it's not like being helpful didn't pay off, at least for some of us.

I want to congratulate you for spelling it properly. It seems something pretty hard to do for non-native French speakers, because I see it misspelled about 90% of the time.

I've probably made 2/3 of my reputation from helpful posts

I got 200 rep for my guide to epic items and augmentations alone, yet somehow it's rated 2 stars out of 5, so I have no idea whether people like it or not!

[Borror0]

I've probably made 2/3 of my reputation from helpful posts

What's funny is that the other 1/3 has come from making fun of Shade

How is the last third different from the first two thirds?