Negative Reputation.

[Kromize]

It's a bit silly as it is right now, people can neg rep anywhere they want for no good reason, and that causes unbalance, and a reputation system that is inaccurate.

Make it so that you have to leave a reason for giving negative reputation(over 15 characters worth).

keeping anonymity is important. Otherwise, you'll just create drama.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=210050

[Bracosius]

I just tried to give you negative rep but could not.

My reason: Your worthless threads stole seconds of my life I will never get back.

[Borror0]

I agree about the comments, but keeping anonymity is important. Otherwise, you'll just create drama.

[Kromize]

I agree about the comments, but keeping anonymity is important. Otherwise, you'll just create drama.

Hmm. There ought to be a check box to choose to keep yourself anonymous? Maybe not, because then that would create additional drama knowing that they chose not to tell you who they are. Touchy topic.

[Letrii]

I agree about the comments, but keeping anonymity is important. Otherwise, you'll just create drama.

And anonymity causes drama for people feeling safe to neg rep people because they don't like their ideas, even when presented in an orderly and civilized manner.

[Kromize]

And anonymity causes drama for people feeling safe to neg rep people because they don't like their ideas, even when presented in an orderly and civilized manner.

This is also true.

So discuss, which is for the greater good? Anonymity or Publicity?

[Bracosius]

Publicity, promote confrontation.

Anonimity on the internet is creating an entire socially inept generation.

They can still hide behind screen names, but it is a start when they can be identified in game.

[Borror0]

And anonymity causes drama for people feeling safe to neg rep people because they don't like their ideas, even when presented in an orderly and civilized manner.

Not to the same extent. Anonymity might cause a small, short-lived derailment, at best, when someone does not understand why he or she got neg rep but it will go away. If those derailments are judged problematic by the moderators, they can just add a clause to the forum guidelines and start handing out infraction points to people derailing threads.

On the other hand, by revealing the name of the person who gave negative reputation, not only do you increase the chance of there being a derailment but you also make it possible for long lasting grudges to develop. Let's face it, most people (myself included) don't feel they "deserved it" when the established laws play against them.

[Letrii]

In its current incarnation, the rep system is little more than a glorified griefing system that encourages people to grief others for perceived slights.

[Kromize]

On the other hand, by revealing the name of the person who gave negative reputation, not only do you increase the chance of there being a derailment but you also make it possible for long lasting grudges to develop.

However, these grudges will only develop when people believe they have been given negative reputation for an ill-gotten reason(or they are ill-tempered), thus, they dislike the person who gave it to them. So, if it were made public, would it be good enough to add in an appeal system(where a moderator can make a final decision)? Or worth it? Keep in mind that moderators could always disable a users ability to appeal if they are abusing it.

[Borror0]

However, these grudges will only develop when people believe they have been given negative reputation for an ill-gotten reason

...which is most of the time. For any system which allows negative feedback.

People are very reluctant to think they did anything wrong. It's when it adds up that it may become compelling, but each event is going to be contested.

[shaolaolint]

I just noticed I had neg but no clue why , so I agree the rep system as is, is stupid.

[Quikster]

I agree some type of comment should be allowed though optional. I dont really care if its anon or not. I rarely give neg rep, and when I do 90% of the time I post in the thread with my views.

[Memnir]

I'd frankly love the ability to leave a comment with my Neg Reps, since I have good reasons for hitting the Disapprove button. I've only done so a total of three times since the Rep system when in - since I prefer to express my opinions in a more creative fashion than button-pressing. It takes a lot more than me disagreeing with a post, or not liking the person posting it to hit Neg Rep... but I'd still much rather mock, argue with, or point out logistical flaws within posts I don't like then just take the easy way out and just push a button. It's a lot more satisfying for me as well.



I disagree that the Rep system is unbalanced or unfair, however. While you may get one or two red squares from random sources for seemingly harmless posts - it takes quite the incendiary post to get a lot of reds at once. It's pretty obvious why that happens when it happens. If you find yourself on the receiving end of a lot of red squares - perhaps you need to review your posting habits before you go claiming the system is bunk. It may not be perfect, but it does work.

[Letrii]

Alright Memnir, got a little challenge for you. http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=215447 Review this thread and tell me what I did that deserved me to lose half my positive rep.

[Memnir]

I can't say since I'm not a judge of other people's actions - nor why they give the Rep they do. Can I see why? No. But I also have an admittedly higher bar for giving out Neg Rep then most who can do so.

I didn't say what I did to serve as some form of forum-wide barometer on what should be - only to explain how I personally approach the Rep system.

I can only say that I myself did not give you Neg Rep in that thread - nor at any other time.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

You have to try pretty hard to keep that red box for long. A poster with even the tiniest bit of positive contribution to the forums won't have a red box for long and can't easily be forced back into a red box.

To get that box usually you have to be rude.

[Minor_Threat]

the amount of people who can hand out neg rep is still relatively low, and it's pretty easy to make an educated guess who left it.

[Borror0]

Review this thread and tell me what I did that deserved me to lose half my positive rep.

Link to the posts that got you neg rep. It'll save people time, if they want to respond to your challenge.

the amount of people who can hand out neg rep is still relatively low, and it's pretty easy to make an educated guess who left it.

A lot of people say that, and then proceed to accuse me of giving them neg rep when I didn't or accuse someone else when I was the one who gave neg rep.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

I just noticed I had neg but no clue why , so I agree the rep system as is, is stupid.

Go to quicklinks, then user control panel. You will be able to see what threads you got neg rep on. (and I'll lay a bet that it was the political thread you were commenting on, people are weird about politics in the US)