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    The Mad Multiclasser Failedlegend's Avatar
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    Default Please Critique My Bard Build(s)

    I'm trying to build a TWF/CC focused Bard with high UMD and somewhat decent haggle (but not super important) this is what I have so far. Bear with me this kinda long (Will reduce to one build when I get feedback on race choice) I don't really care whether this build is MC or Pure but if you do suggest a MC could you please explain why (previous build requests people have just posts a good mix w/o explanation) Also I'm not sure what Prestige to go (most people I've asked say unless you go Warchanter don't waste your AP)

    Elf Version

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    Level 4 True Neutral Elf Female
    (4 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 48
    Spell Points: 164 
    BAB: 3\3
    Fortitude: 2
    Reflex: 7
    Will: 3
    
                      Starting            Ending          
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats        
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 4)         
    Strength             14                 14            
    Dexterity            16                 17            
    Constitution         12                 12            
    Intelligence         12                 12            
    Wisdom                8                  8            
    Charisma             16                 16            
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 4)
    Balance               7                    10
    Bluff                 3                     3
    Concentration         5                     8
    Diplomacy             7                    10
    Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                7                    10
    Heal                 -1                    -1
    Hide                  3                     3
    Intimidate            3                     3
    Jump                  5                     8
    Listen               -1                     1
    Move Silently         3                     3
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform               7                    10
    Repair                1                     1
    Search                1                     3
    Spot                 -1                     1
    Swim                  2                     2
    Tumble                4                     4
    Use Magic Device      7                    10
    
    Level 1 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+4)
    Skill: Concentration (+4)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
    Skill: Haggle (+4)
    Skill: Jump (+3)
    Skill: Perform (+4)
    Skill: Tumble (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    Spell (1): Charm Person
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse
    Spell (1): Feather Fall
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (2): Blur
    Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
    Halfling Version

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    Level 4 True Neutral Halfling Male
    (4 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 48
    Spell Points: 164 
    BAB: 3\3
    Fortitude: 3
    Reflex: 9
    Will: 4
    
                      Starting            Ending          
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats        
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 4)         
    Strength             12                 12            
    Dexterity            17                 18            
    Constitution         12                 12            
    Intelligence         12                 12            
    Wisdom                8                  8            
    Charisma             16                 16            
    Human Version
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    Level 4 True Neutral Human Male
    (4 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 54
    Spell Points: 164 
    BAB: 3\3
    Fortitude: 2
    Reflex: 7
    Will: 3
    
                      Starting            Ending          
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats        
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 4)         
    Strength             14                 14            
    Dexterity            16                 16            
    Constitution         12                 12            
    Intelligence         12                 12            
    Wisdom                8                  8            
    Charisma             15                 16            

    Drow Version
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    Level 4 True Neutral Drow Male
    (4 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 48
    Spell Points: 164 
    BAB: 3\3
    Fortitude: 2
    Reflex: 8
    Will: 3
    
                      Starting            Ending          
                     Base Stats         Base Stats        
    Abilities        (Level 1)          (Level 4)         
    Strength             14                 14            
    Dexterity            17                 18            
    Constitution         12                 12            
    Intelligence         12                 12            
    Wisdom                8                  8            
    Charisma             16                 16            
    I like the Drow for the starting stats (no tome req for GTWF) but their enhancements don't really suit Bard (or ANY class really) and I don't particularity like the Drow race. The Halfling helps with the bonus to Dex and a good enhancement setup. I'll probably go Elf because their similar to Drow starting bonus wise (immune to sleep,etc. not stats) AND they have a good enhancement line but the Humans extra feat/skill points might really help out.

    Note: I will starting this character at Level 4 (Head Start) for so if a MC gimped me Level 1-3 but gives me just that much more power at 4 That's ok.
    Last edited by Failedlegend; 11-28-2009 at 03:00 AM.
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    As I tell ALL Bards, 12 Con does not cut it. You need 16 Con to make a liveable Bard that wont need to be healed all the time. People argue it, but its true, the one great weakness to Bards is the paltry amount of hitpoints we get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyadra View Post
    As I tell ALL Bards, 12 Con does not cut it. You need 16 Con to make a liveable Bard that wont need to be healed all the time. People argue it, but its true, the one great weakness to Bards is the paltry amount of hitpoints we get.
    16 con is a stupid investment, my bard started with 10 con (drow) and gets along fine in ALL content, and heals herself just fine.
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