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    Default I am convinced...

    I'm not pointing any fingers or mentioning any names but I am convinced that if you are level 20 and have 1 level of monk and 1 level of fighter as a splash and 18 levels of anything else.... then you are a noob and have no concept of this game.

    that is all.

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    especially if you spend most of your time anon so people will let you in their groups

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    I`m thinking that you`d Hope that Death would allow the use of a Gun in DDO?
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    Shoulda seen the cleric


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hokonoso View Post
    I'm not pointing any fingers or mentioning any names but I am convinced that if you are level 20 and have 1 level of monk and 1 level of fighter as a splash and 18 levels of anything else.... then you are a noob and have no concept of this game.

    that is all.
    If the other 18 levels are rogue or ranger, fighter 1 is marginally better than monk2: 2 more hit points, a larger selection of feat options, access to a 10 hp toughness enhancement, access to the first tier of fighter tactics enhancements, and, if rogue, access to full martial weapon proficiencies.

    If the 2nd monk level is redundant regarding giving you evasion, the 1st fighter level can in fact pay off quite well, depending what it is you're looking for. 18 ran/1 monk/1 fighter builds are generally a little better off in ac and single-target dps tanking ability in exchange for the lack of umd. For an 18/1/1 ranger build, going halfling is a net benefit of 3 armor class over a human build(+2 racial dex, +2 racial enhancement, +1 size modifier), but at the cost of a feat (which is usually buying Khopesh). Going 1 fighter/halfling essentially trades UMD for 3 armor class vs the 18/1rog/1monk human variant. This could be a good tradeoff if its what you're looking for in a character. There's not even a DPS loss, as halfling has +8 static sneak attack damage, vs 1d6+3 from rog1, meaning its also a very minor net gain in dps when you don't have aggro. If you can handle not having UMD, the 1 monk/1 fighter ranger variant has great payoffs, and 1 fighter is better than the 2nd monk level.

    While most would prefer to go either 19 rog/1 monk or 16 rog/2 monk/2 fighter to get the full range out of the feats, the added proficiencies and ability to take twf/ic/ewp: khoepsh with the fighter bonus feats is quite valuable, for example, on a dual khopesh, str-based rogue dps build (18 being the requirement for assassin3, which provides considerable dps). If that extra feat gets you Khopesh over rapier, it adds more DPS than you'd get from the extra 1d6 sneak attack at rog19, and is further not affected by whether you have aggro (and dual khopesh str based rogues ... they get the aggro). As a final perk, picking up martial weapon proficiency permits such a character to craft a radiance2 scimitar for trash mobs, allowing them to maintain ic: slash for Khopesh instead of having to deal with the need for ic: pierce on a rapier for radiancing mobs. A str based, thf 18 rog acrobat build would benefit from the same level split vs /2 monk, since such characters are likely to have stunning blow as well.
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    I am thinking there was a lfm up the other day and he said we was leaving for marvel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junts View Post
    If the other 18 levels are .......MAJOR SNIP.........
    Ahem.

    I`m thinking Junts here didn`t pick up on the subject at hand.

    It`s just a hunch really.............




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dexxaan View Post
    Ahem.

    I`m thinking Junts here didn`t pick up on the subject at hand.

    It`s just a hunch really.............




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    This is true!

    Though I could guess you guys have one of those lovely folks who has an lfm no one will ever hit for hours at a time, every day .. we have a few, too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junts View Post
    This is true!

    Though I could guess you guys have one of those lovely folks who has an lfm no one will ever hit for hours at a time, every day .. we have a few, too
    Pretty much, and that's all I have to say about that.
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