!!!impossible Color Puzzles!!!

[Creddi]

And how far do you think this would go? Once you open up that door, you have to start adding features for several types of handicaps. Maybe the OP should, I dunno, find a way to compensate for his problem on his own? I know a few handicapped people who *hate* the way everyone treats them like babies. They want to be treated like everyone else, and overcome their deficiencies, not be considered "special needs".

Sometimes accomodations are easy (as they likely are in this case) and other times not so much. Case by case, it is not unreasonable for people to do what they can to help others.

[Nonan]

I just tried to run The Pit, and I'm as mad as a kobold at a kissing convention!

It's not my stinkin fault!!! I'm COLORBLIND. From Birth. There's nothing I can do about it. Lots of men are colorblind... SO WHY THE FREAKIN HECK AREN'T THE COLOR PUZZLE's KEY PANELS FREAKIN LABELED, LIKE STINKIN CRAYONS ARE?!?!?!

WHY DO YOU THINK CRAYONS ARE LABELED FOR LITTLE KIDS?!? BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE FREAKIN COLORBLIND!!! Just turn your monitor black and white, and then try doing the stupid puzzle: then you'll know my frustration.

Some Examples: The Pit, Tangleroot, Haywire... FIX THEM!

CHANGE ALL OF THE STUPID COLOR PUZZLES SO THAT 'HANDICAPPED' PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF CAN DO THEM TOO. MAKE ALL THE FREAKIN THINGS 'SELECTABLES' THAT DON'T DO ANYTHING BUT TELL YOU WHAT FREAKIN COLOR THEY ARE.

Hmmmmmm.... I wonder what lawyers think of things like this?!? No Handicapped Access... Hmmmmm.....

STOP PEELING THE STINKIN LABELS OFF MY FREAKIN CRAYONS, PEOPLE!!!

This is less of a suggestion and more of a NEEDS TO FREAKIN HAPPEN kind of thing.

And yes; I used colors!!! I had to get my son to pick them out!!!

I wanted to go along the line that it has taken over 3 years for you to realize this issue?

[Robi3.0]

Did you read any further in the thread, or is everyone going to quote something from the beginning of page 2? My main point being, opening the door to one change like this means that anyone can walk through that door. Take for example, a ton of people over in lotro suggested that they should add "marriage" to the game, so that one character can marry another. Then we have posts asking to allow same sex marriage in game. Then we have posts complaining that it's not moral to allow same sex marriage, etc. etc. etc. In the end, marriage was not included.

What the hell! If color blind people get mouse overs for color puzzles then gay marriage wins?

Oh man, we cant have that. I hereby officially remove my support of accommodating Color blind people.

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LOL that is rich, didn't you ever learn from your high school debate team that "slippery slope" is a very weak argument no matter how you package it. Anyone with half a brain can tell the difference between someone asking for a chance to experience the game just like everyone else and someone that is just being a jerk.

Color Blind people being accommodated isn't in anyway shape or form going to open the door to ADD kids getting I win buttons, or gay marriage. I am not even sure how that is really relevant to any game, but what ever.

[Bunker]

Can anyone describe which puzzle the OP is talking about?

[Shyver]

Can anyone describe which puzzle the OP is talking about?

In the Pit it's the room with the stairs and the puzzle wheels.

In CO6 it's the last room with the puzzles guarded by the reavers.

In the Reaver it's the mastermind puzzle.

In tangleroot it's the room that guards the pillar and the named cleric.

[Bunker]

Ok, I re-read some of the posts. If you are talking about the color wheel puzzles. You do realize that there are symbols with each color. I'm colorblind, so I agree that there can be minor moments in life that we have to make adjustments for. But if the color wheels in Pit, Tangleroot, Haywire, ect....All have symbols on them, then why do the colors matter. Heck, I say make them all white, and you have to solve them by symbols only. Then everyone will be on the same page as you, and the puzzles will still be the same.

Basically what i'm saying, is this is a touch crazy. Take note that I'm not calling you crazy, because I understand your potential frustrations. However, if there is already a sysem in game that helps us, IE. symbols, aka pictures, then colors are not the problem.

[Robi3.0]

Can anyone describe which puzzle the OP is talking about?

I believe the OP is talking about the puzzle in the security center of the The Pit, were you have the search for plaques with colored lights and runes on them then turn the corresponding colored wheel to the rune on the plaque.

That isn't the only puzzle that is a issue. The Reaver's Fate puzzle is a problem as well. I am not even color blind and I have a hard time tell Orange skulls from Yellow ones. The Crucible wheel puzzle is another one.

[Bunker]

I believe the OP is talking about the puzzle in the security center of the The Pit, were you have the search for plaques with colored lights and runes on them then turn the corresponding colored wheel to the rune on the plaque.

That isn't the only puzzle that is a issue. The Reaver's Fate puzzle is a problem as well. I am not even color blind and I have a hard time tell Orange skulls from Yellow ones. The Crucible wheel puzzle is another one.

I agree that the Mastermind Reaver puzzle could be difficult, but in that single quest/situation, there are generally 11 other players that can help. Problem solved.

Side note: Color Blind ppl can solve the mastermind puzzle, you just have to know how to count.

[DSC]

Fully agree with the OP's request, though his tone left much to be desired.

what kind of a society it is when a person orders a cup of HOT coffee and the foam cup has to remind the drinker its HOT and the staff has to remind the drinker verbally too?!?!

people should stop being lazy and start having more common sense

Although America is awfully litigious, the original case that spawned this is one that very few people actually hear the real facts about. Read The Actual Facts about the McDonald's Coffee Case if you're interested. Suffice it to say that the 79-year old woman involved suffered third-degree burns that required skin grafts and years of medical treatment.

The More You Know

[adamkatt]

A close cousin of the Ass-clown, typically identified by a jovial expression and an outward misunderstanding of how he/she is perceived, combined with a generally misguided conception of what is sociably acceptable amongst his/her fellow peers.

Said persons' frequent attempts at humor usually lead to he/she making an ass out of his/herself. Not to be confused with ass-hole.

******! I like the clown part better!
Thats me!!

I used to play ddo with a colorbilnd guy He was always took these silly comments in stride... Called a racist for poking fun at an overly upset player... You know what i always hated all ths puzzels to begin with, but hey thats what solvers are for..

Well i hope they fix your problem and make everything a shade of gray.

[AylinIsAwesome]

/signed


I see no reason not to implement some sort of colourblind help.

[BlackSteel]

Not to be rude, but you should have 5 others in the group with you, perhaps one of them isnt color blind?

[ryingar]

While a very real issue I suppose (although one I hadn't thought about until now), does anyone else see the irony in him using 2 other colors besides the standard white in his post???

two colors that are two different forms of color blindness. I think he is just trying to stir up drama. Most of the people Ive known who were color blind were red or blue blind to varying degrees

[AylinIsAwesome]

Not to be rude, but you should have 5 others in the group with you, perhaps one of them isnt color blind?

Most of the time I do quests it's short-manned. But whatever, that's irrelevant.


What is relevant however, is that people sometimes want to solo quests, and it's impossible to do those quests solo unless you've got the locations of all of the puzzle pieces memorized or written down somewhere. It shouldn't have to be that way.


The fix could be something as simple as putting numbers next to the damned things. It wouldn't make anything clickable, just numbers on the wall adjacent to them.

[AylinIsAwesome]

two colors that are two different forms of color blindness. I think he is just trying to stir up drama. Most of the people Ive known who were color blind were red or blue blind to varying degrees

You are thinking of partial colour blindness.

There are varying degrees of colour blindness. For example, the most well-known, red-green, is where the person cannot tell the difference between the colours red and green.


According to the OP's post, I assume that he has total colour blindness, and cannot see colours at all. In which case he would see everything as a grey-scale.

If this is the case, then it doesn't matter that red and blue are the colours he used, since they both would look like grey to him.