!!!impossible Color Puzzles!!!

[Tmitmis]

I just tried to run The Pit, and I'm as mad as a kobold at a kissing convention!

It's not my stinkin fault!!! I'm COLORBLIND. From Birth. There's nothing I can do about it. Lots of men are colorblind... SO WHY THE FREAKIN HECK AREN'T THE COLOR PUZZLE's KEY PANELS FREAKIN LABELED, LIKE STINKIN CRAYONS ARE?!?!?!

WHY DO YOU THINK CRAYONS ARE LABELED FOR LITTLE KIDS?!? BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE FREAKIN COLORBLIND!!! Just turn your monitor black and white, and then try doing the stupid puzzle: then you'll know my frustration.

Some Examples: The Pit, Tangleroot, Haywire... FIX THEM!

CHANGE ALL OF THE STUPID COLOR PUZZLES SO THAT 'HANDICAPPED' PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF CAN DO THEM TOO. MAKE ALL THE FREAKIN THINGS 'SELECTABLES' THAT DON'T DO ANYTHING BUT TELL YOU WHAT FREAKIN COLOR THEY ARE.

Hmmmmmm.... I wonder what lawyers think of things like this?!? No Handicapped Access... Hmmmmm.....

STOP PEELING THE STINKIN LABELS OFF MY FREAKIN CRAYONS, PEOPLE!!!

This is less of a suggestion and more of a NEEDS TO FREAKIN HAPPEN kind of thing.

And yes; I used colors!!! I had to get my son to pick them out!!!

[Maetrim]

This issue does really need to be addressed by the devs. I just did a quick google and on the wiki it says for males colour blindness in an average male population is from 4-10% depending on the ethnicity and type of colour blindness.

Do you really want to lose/annoy/upset that proportion of your paying player base?

[karnokvolrath]

I think it definately couldnt hurt, even as an clickable option the UI or something. Then as you highlighted it, it would say something like - Lever (red) or Panel (blue). Doesnt sound to hard, but i dont build games either....

[Dawn_Falcon]

I think it definately couldnt hurt, even as an clickable option the UI or something. Then as you highlighted it, it would say something like - Lever (red) or Panel (blue). Doesnt sound to hard, but i dont build games either....

Quite a few other MMO's have a "colour blind mode" with an alternate pallet of colours. That shouldn't be too technically difficult..

[Dirac]

Despite everything about the form, tone, and attitude of the OP, he is correct. They should fix that.

[Delt]

Mmmm....not to be insensitive or nothing, but if you are fully colorblind, there are some things maybe you just can't do (like, I dunno, attempt a coloured puzzle alone).

Roleplay the handicap away if it makes you feel better, but I am definately against modification of the game to address individual player deficiencies...especially when someone makes the request in such a ****y manner.

[dopey69]

not being color blind i never thought about this

seems like an ez fix so then fix it /signed

[Zippo]

Despite everything about the form, tone, and attitude of the OP, he is correct. They should fix that.

Its the whole attracting more bees with honey thing though

[Zippo]

I just tried to run The Pit, and I'm as mad as a kobold at a kissing convention!

It's not my stinkin fault!!! I'm COLORBLIND. From Birth. There's nothing I can do about it. Lots of men are colorblind... SO WHY THE FREAKIN HECK AREN'T THE COLOR PUZZLE's KEY PANELS FREAKIN LABELED, LIKE STINKIN CRAYONS ARE?!?!?!

WHY DO YOU THINK CRAYONS ARE LABELED FOR LITTLE KIDS?!? BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE FREAKIN COLORBLIND!!! Just turn your monitor black and white, and then try doing the stupid puzzle: then you'll know my frustration.

Some Examples: The Pit, Tangleroot, Haywire... FIX THEM!

CHANGE ALL OF THE STUPID COLOR PUZZLES SO THAT 'HANDICAPPED' PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF CAN DO THEM TOO. MAKE ALL THE FREAKIN THINGS 'SELECTABLES' THAT DON'T DO ANYTHING BUT TELL YOU WHAT FREAKIN COLOR THEY ARE.

Hmmmmmm.... I wonder what lawyers think of things like this?!? No Handicapped Access... Hmmmmm.....

STOP PEELING THE STINKIN LABELS OFF MY FREAKIN CRAYONS, PEOPLE!!!

This is less of a suggestion and more of a NEEDS TO FREAKIN HAPPEN kind of thing.

And yes; I used colors!!! I had to get my son to pick them out!!!

While a very real issue I suppose (although one I hadn't thought about until now), does anyone else see the irony in him using 2 other colors besides the standard white in his post???

[tango44]

While a very real issue I suppose (although one I hadn't thought about until now), does anyone else see the irony in him using 2 other colors besides the standard white in his post???

+1 (pure genious insight).

[Kromize]

While a very real issue I suppose (although one I hadn't thought about until now), does anyone else see the irony in him using 2 other colors besides the standard white in his post???

you obviously didn't read the last part in his post...

+1 (pure genious insight).

No, not really. Especially if you can't spell genius right.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

you obviously didn't read the last part in his post...

No, its actually pretty ignorant for someone to complain about colour choices, and then deliberately use colour choices that could frustrate others. I suppose he might have been trying to make a point but its the real problem with the OPs post. While he is right that colour marking of some kind would be helpful, and not all that hard to do (and legally required in more and more countries as we move forward) people react negatively to the style of his complaint. Rather than stating the challenge and possible solutions ("actionable feedback" as I believe Tolero calls it) he yells and screams and is generally obnoxious. That doesn't lead to people wanting to support him, it leads to people wanting to prove him wrong.

[SkyCry]

I have no idea what it's like to be colorblind, but I feel for you. Puzzles are a fun part of the game, something a lot of other MMO miss completely. That being said, I think changing the color puzzles (current and future) would be cutting a part of the game just because someone can't enjoy it, which is a no-go. So the correct solution is to add some other hints at what color the puzzle elements are, like a description when you select a wheel.

That being said, I think devs are busy doing more important things, so this might take a while. For the time being the workaround is to bring a teammate with you and ask them to either tell you what color it is or just let them solve the damned puzzle. This is a party-oriented game where different classes cover each others' weaknesses, so why not let other players cover your weaknesses? Game is much more fun in a party than alone.

[Kromize]

No, its actually pretty ignorant for someone to complain about colour choices, and then deliberately use colour choices that could frustrate others. I suppose he might have been trying to make a point but its the real problem with the OPs post. While he is right that colour marking of some kind would be helpful, and not all that hard to do (and legally required in more and more countries as we move forward) people react negatively to the style of his complaint. Rather than stating the challenge and possible solutions ("actionable feedback" as I believe Tolero calls it) he yells and screams and is generally obnoxious. That doesn't lead to people wanting to support him, it leads to people wanting to prove him wrong.

True. Also he makes it knowledgeable that he could have had his son help with the puzzle in-game as well. And using colors, that, as you states "could frustrate others". While being obnoxious, and overly angry. However, he does have a point about the colorblind people out there who may need assistance.

p.s.- Watch out for The Twilight Forge. Don't go into the wrong tunnel, they are color coded as well.

[Natulyre]

1. Don't solo the pit as there is no solo difficulty.

2. Ask for people experienced with the puzzle in your LFM

3. If you're that much of a donkey and still wanna do the puzzle alone, Theres programs for colorblind people that changes colors displayed by your monitor

(Bonus) 4. Anyone tried the Phasewalk (Or however its called) spell? I'm pretty sure it changes surrounding colors.

If it still doesn't work or you're still mad: World isn't fair, get used to it and I'm pretty sure theres way more thing than colorblindness that affect gaming experience: People that always get lost, Peeps that just can't stay focused, Deaf players, Muted and illiterate players, People with slow reflexes... Only a few of all these problems are acknowledged by the media and such, which is why you'll rarely see systems that help people with other problems than colorblindness and such... Pretty unfair heh?

I gotta say that the OP must have had a bunch of crayons up his... pancake, crazy rants will get you nowhere. Also DDO, isn't essential, nor is it a public service, Do they even show movies in colorblind mode at the theater? Not really.

Oh and i almost forgot, I don't think devs will work on this anytime soon (Aka before 2020) if they ever decide to add a colorblind mode.

[ryingar]

While a very real issue I suppose (although one I hadn't thought about until now), does anyone else see the irony in him using 2 other colors besides the standard white in his post???

two colors that are two different forms of color blindness. I think he is just trying to stir up drama. Most of the people Ive known who were color blind were red or blue blind to varying degrees

[AylinIsAwesome]

two colors that are two different forms of color blindness. I think he is just trying to stir up drama. Most of the people Ive known who were color blind were red or blue blind to varying degrees

You are thinking of partial colour blindness.

There are varying degrees of colour blindness. For example, the most well-known, red-green, is where the person cannot tell the difference between the colours red and green.


According to the OP's post, I assume that he has total colour blindness, and cannot see colours at all. In which case he would see everything as a grey-scale.

If this is the case, then it doesn't matter that red and blue are the colours he used, since they both would look like grey to him.

[Duskslayer]

Perhaps asking NICELY would work? If this was your 5th request, then I can understand your outburst - but when asking 1st time - and then freaking out? Not a good way to communicate.

I'm sure the devs were probably unaware of the issue (and probably still are since I doubt they even read this forum!).

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I just tried to run The Pit, and I'm as mad as a kobold at a kissing convention!

It's not my stinkin fault!!! I'm COLORBLIND. From Birth. There's nothing I can do about it. Lots of men are colorblind... SO WHY THE FREAKIN HECK AREN'T THE COLOR PUZZLE's KEY PANELS FREAKIN LABELED, LIKE STINKIN CRAYONS ARE?!?!?!

WHY DO YOU THINK CRAYONS ARE LABELED FOR LITTLE KIDS?!? BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE FREAKIN COLORBLIND!!! Just turn your monitor black and white, and then try doing the stupid puzzle: then you'll know my frustration.

Some Examples: The Pit, Tangleroot, Haywire... FIX THEM!

CHANGE ALL OF THE STUPID COLOR PUZZLES SO THAT 'HANDICAPPED' PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF CAN DO THEM TOO. MAKE ALL THE FREAKIN THINGS 'SELECTABLES' THAT DON'T DO ANYTHING BUT TELL YOU WHAT FREAKIN COLOR THEY ARE.

Hmmmmmm.... I wonder what lawyers think of things like this?!? No Handicapped Access... Hmmmmm.....

STOP PEELING THE STINKIN LABELS OFF MY FREAKIN CRAYONS, PEOPLE!!!

This is less of a suggestion and more of a NEEDS TO FREAKIN HAPPEN kind of thing.

And yes; I used colors!!! I had to get my son to pick them out!!!

[Tmitmis]

Perhaps asking NICELY would work?

No; asking nicely just gets you ignored nicely.

[Aranticus]

OP, the bottom most wheel is yellow, the first wheel on the right hand side of the level you come in is purple, going 1 flight up the stairs, turning right will immediately bring you to the blue wheel. going across the plaform to the other corner of the level with the blue wheel will bring you to the orange and green wheels. the orange is of to the side of the stairs, the green is under the stairs. the upper most wheel is red