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  1. 11-25-2009, 02:11 PM #1
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    Default Jyliste

    This a solid, non-turning (no Divine Vitality) healbot/Crowd control build.
    Based on 28 stat points.
    Some people may say any cleric is better off with Quicken as a feat selection.
    Having played cleric as a primary role for years now, I dont find quicken as a needed
    feat when placing points into concentration at each chance to do so.

    This particular build is figured with +2 tomes @ level 20.

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Jyliste 
Level 20 True Neutral Human Female
(20 Cleric) 
Hit Points: 262
Spell Points: 1786 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 8
Will: 21

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Stats          Modified Stats
Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             10                    12
Dexterity            12                    14
Constitution         12                    15
Intelligence         10                    12
Wisdom               18                    29
Charisma              8                    10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 20
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 20
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 20
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 20
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               1                     2
Bluff                -1                     0
Concentration         5                    29
Diplomacy             3                    25
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                     0
Heal                  8                    32
Hide                  1                     2
Intimidate           -1                     0
Jump                  0                     1
Listen                4                     9
Move Silently         1                     2
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                    n/a
Repair                0                     1
Search                0                     1
Spot                  4                     9
Swim                  0                     1
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a                    n/a

Level 1 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness


Level 2 (Cleric)


Level 3 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy


Level 4 (Cleric)


Level 5 (Cleric)


Level 6 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness


Level 7 (Cleric)


Level 8 (Cleric)


Level 9 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell


Level 10 (Cleric)


Level 11 (Cleric)


Level 12 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 13 (Cleric)


Level 14 (Cleric)


Level 15 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration


Level 16 (Cleric)


Level 17 (Cleric)


Level 18 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Penetration


Level 19 (Cleric)


Level 20 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Wisdom I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Cleric Concentration I
Enhancement: Cleric Concentration II
Enhancement: Cleric Concentration III
Enhancement: Cleric Concentration IV
Enhancement: Cleric Diplomacy I
Enhancement: Cleric Diplomacy II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life III
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot II
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot III
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot IV
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom III
Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery III
Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery IV
    This particular cleric build offers a high mana pool and enough versatility to swing a weapon when self buffed.
    At higher levels keep an eye out for the best concentration/balance items you can find.
    The weak point of this build is the low strength skill and often ends up failing str checks.
    A good resistance item and proper buffs will help tremendously.
    Excellent at crowd control through use of:
    sound burst/command at low level
    greater command at mid/high level
    and free reign at high level between destruction/slay living/maximized blade barriers/banishment/harm, etc.

    Necromancy focus + greater spell pen feats = <3


    Best of luck to you Jyliste and do not hesitate to ask for any help with this character.

    Slink
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  2. 11-25-2009, 02:23 PM #2
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    Where have you been hiding slink? Only comment on the build is why not 14 con?
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  3. 11-25-2009, 03:01 PM #3
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    28 point build Norg.
    Not much room for more while staying above neg bonus and retaining max wisdom.
    If you can believe Teresi had a base 8 con and still mustered 400+hp at endgame between false life and GS items etc.
    She had no issues with concentration checks until amrath, all of which worked relatively well considering she was using head of good fortune for fortification.
    (+15 concentration helm was more important than minos at the time)
    I could drop int for more con but lose one of my intended skill at the same time.
    I prefer to max out heal as I'd rather have the barb get up from the shrine full instead of me having to burn scrolls to get his arse back to full.
    The aura from a good heal score could be substituted for points in balance if one were so inclined.

    Getting up from cometfall/knockdown can suck but is remedied with items most have anyways. (trapblast goggles/spec ops or resistance item).
    Endgame Teresi chose +5 reflex saves/150 spell point/2 clicky haste goggles for her crafting desires and they have worked out well for her.

    I have been playing on Orien.
    Tired of Khyber and all the bickering/arguing between people I seem to have known far to long.
    Having a blast I might add as well.
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  4. 11-25-2009, 03:05 PM #4
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    Slink, that is a very cool build! I'll show you what I came up with for my new cleric, Hordeau, and see what you think.

    n.b. I used NO tomes in the make-up of this build as I prefer to go back and edit/upgrade as I get tomes rather than accept them as an assumed part of the build.

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Hordeau Canach
Level 20 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
(20 Cleric) 
Hit Points: 322
Spell Points: 1578 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 7
Will: 19

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             15                 15                   15
Dexterity            12                 12                   12
Constitution         16                 16                   18
Intelligence         10                 10                   10
Wisdom               16                 21                   24
Charisma              8                  8                    8

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               1                  1                    5
Bluff                -1                 -1                   -1
Concentration         7                 27                   27
Diplomacy            -1                 -1                   -1
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                 -1                   -1
Heal                  3                  7                    7
Hide                  1                  1                    1
Intimidate           -1                 -1                   -1
Jump                  4                 13.5                 13.5
Listen                3                  7                    7
Move Silently         1                  1                    1
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                  0                    0
Search                0                  0                    2
Spot                  3                  7                    7
Swim                  2                  2                    2
Tumble                n/a               n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a               n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stability
Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stonecutting
Feat: (Automatic) Giant Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Orc and Goblin Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Poison Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Spell Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Turn Undead
Enhancement: Dwarven Faith I
Enhancement: Cleric Smiting I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I


Level 2 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I


Level 3 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Casting
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Smiting I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I


Level 4 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Enhancement: Cleric Smiting II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II


Level 5 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Enhancement: Dwarven Faith II
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot II


Level 6 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II


Level 7 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 8 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III


Level 9 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Smiting I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I


Level 10 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom III


Level 11 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV


Level 12 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Enhancement: Cleric Smiting III


Level 13 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Enhancement: Cleric Smiting IV


Level 14 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot III


Level 15 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot IV


Level 16 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III


Level 17 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Enhancement: Dwarven Faith III
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Smiting II


Level 18 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration
Enhancement: Dwarven Faith IV


Level 19 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV


Level 20 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Intervention
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Spell Penetration I
    Oh, BTW, Ingtar is back!
    Last edited by Rabbi_Hordo; 11-25-2009 at 03:10 PM. Reason: Inserting the Character Build for Hordeau, Cleric on Khyber!
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  5. 11-25-2009, 03:28 PM #5
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    ingtar?
    omg...wow, havent seen him in ages, make sure he gets a /shadowhump from you and Gornn in short order.

    This is just a basic build for someone who had questions about a simple crowd control/healbot cleric on Orien (Jyliste) with alot of limitations (28pt/no tomes etc etc)
    Figured the easiest way to get most of my thought across was to post here for he/she to read and use as a basis for whichever direction they decide to go.
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  6. 11-25-2009, 03:48 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slink View Post
    28 point build Norg.
    Not much room for more while staying above neg bonus and retaining max wisdom.
    If you can believe Teresi had a base 8 con and still mustered 400+hp at endgame between false life and GS items etc.
    She had no issues with concentration checks until amrath, all of which worked relatively well considering she was using head of good fortune for fortification.
    (+15 concentration helm was more important than minos at the time)
    I could drop int for more con but lose one of my intended skill at the same time.
    I prefer to max out heal as I'd rather have the barb get up from the shrine full instead of me having to burn scrolls to get his arse back to full.
    The aura from a good heal score could be substituted for points in balance if one were so inclined.

    Getting up from cometfall/knockdown can suck but is remedied with items most have anyways. (trapblast goggles/spec ops or resistance item).
    Endgame Teresi chose +5 reflex saves/150 spell point/2 clicky haste goggles for her crafting desires and they have worked out well for her.
    More of a question of why not 14 con then a question of can something be done without.

    Oh there are concentration issues in the Dq epic raid (you probably need to turn on quicken at some points) and in odd quests such as Kobold, New invasion, etc.

    Why diplomacy skill points?

    Probably a typo but you got greater spell focus necro listed and not spell focus necro.

    I have been playing on Orien.
    Tired of Khyber and all the bickering/arguing between people I seem to have known far to long.
    Having a blast I might add as well.
    Sounds like you needed a break from Khyber mayhaps a permanent one. Well when you get back onto Khyber look us up will be there.
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  7. 11-25-2009, 04:18 PM #7
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    Diplo to drop agro should you gain it.
    Diplo+concentration works for my playstyle, might not for some others but it's how I roll on my cleric.

    Yah, on original T, she doesnt have maximize but has spell focus necromancy, this is where it gets tricky.
    I used to take focus necro/greater focus necro and 1 feat of spell pen instead.
    In my experience, one or the other is enough, both arent needed.
    Orig build also didnt have maximize because of necro spec.
    I dont care if my blades only hit for 180 if I can just kill it with a glance.

    Still, this would be a decent build for someone just learning the game and offer alot of versatility towards a caster focused cleric, which is also how I enjoy playing.

    Not for everyone, indeed, most people focus on hitpoints/quicken and cross class skills.
    Great for them, just isnt my cup of tea.
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    GRRRRRR! /Throws herself down in a a tamtrum....
    How many people must I Rep before being able to Rep you again? oh well, shall make some tea...









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