Hahah Let me see if I have this right

[Merkinsal]

okok I am hidden, as invisible to the naked eye as the air around me. Silently I move into position and await my chance to strike. The mob notices the creaking bucket of bolts behind me and makes a bee line towards him/her. I prepare to strike............and the mob runs around me!

What is wrong with this picture lmao.

[tangledfish]

You didn't get to make an attack of opportunity when the creature passed through your zone of control?

[Merkinsal]

You didn't get to make an attack of opportunity when the creature passed through your zone of control?

Yes, but I would expect him to run me down if I am in his path since he can't see me. Instead the pathing takes him around me.

When using assasinate, I have yet to be perfect in anticipating which side he is going to go to and how to time the swings. Just a little frustrating. The pathing mechanism sees me I am guessing.

[Psyk0sisS]

When I Assassinate, I stand slightly to the side of their path so I know they're gonna keep on a straight line. Then you gotta use it right before they get into your strike zone because the mob is actually about 1/2 its body lenth in front of its graphic, maybe even a full body lenth.

[Merkinsal]

That helps in more ways I can say and explains how my swings can go right thru the graphic and nothing happens.

That kind of thing seems to happen other times too on moving mobs. Chasing and swinging from behind seems like the same mechanic or similar? I can't run thru the graphic but I don't always seem to get rolls on the swing. Is there a workaround for that?

[TURIN35RBAL2]

Some other ideas that might help, stay away from the rest of the party group, especially the tanks. If the party is heading in the direction of 0 degrees i stay about 12 steps at 45 degrees or 315 degrees ahead, that way you are at perfect flanking angle and by the time the mob heads towards the group you are already behind most of them and thus can begin the assassination run.

Tip #2, you can assassinate two monsters at the same time. Try to maximize this by positioning an opponent at each of your arms. That way you get 2 kills for one and of course the 2nd opponent won't blow your cover because their dead.

Tip #3, make sure you have good subtle backstabbing, use it, and get crippling or slicing blow feat. While you are waiting for assassinate clock to run out, use slicing/crippling blow. That way you know that your opponents will eventually bleed to death anyway even if have to leave for a sudden reason.

Tip #4, do not bump into the monsters, as you guys mentioned previously in this thread, do not be face to face to the mob, if they begin to run, and you are moving also, you have a good chance to bump them and a great chance to break your cover.

What I prefer to do when in a party, is to have the rest of the party wait outside, enter the chamber, and do concentric circles around the room from the outside heading into the center (like a spiral), Take out the opponents on the far reaches of the mob group. I know it can take discipline to not head straight for the prime or most valuable target but doing this will increase your chances of not be noticed.

Tip #6, always keep in mind noise and sound. Backstabbing an enemy while it is moving will cause more sound and noise, backstabbing an enemy when it is close to another in its mob will allow the others to hear them being attacked. If the enemy is on a guard route (you will notice moving monsters have a route they take and then repeat it) wait until it is far from the rest of the mob and stopped (or paused). And whatever you do, DO NOT break boxes, vases, etc. Break these after you take them all out. Also, DO NOT switch weapons, drink pots, or any other clicky when trying to stealth. They will hear it and have a better chance of noticing you.

If you see an opponent suddenly stop its route and head towards your direction move laterally(keeping distance between you and the monster fixed or expanding) and behind the opponent (out of their FOV). If your lucky they will stop looking for you.

Another tip, when using an item (switch, door, lever, etc) try to move as far as you can to the side of the usable switch and preferably out of lighted areas and out of view. For instance a door: stay behind the walls to the right and left of the door and open the door, so when the door opens you are there ready to smil and say hellow to the mob that will be looking right at the open door.

Stealth is your friend. It keeps you alive, allows you great DPS, and the advantage of time. A rogue can sit hidden in just about any place for as long as they want, other classes cannot, use that to your advantage. When your assassinating, be patient, meticulous, and most of all, as deadly as you can be.

Personally I like the seeker weapons with a crippling or sapping ability, so if i don't kill them with assassinate they will be much weaker for the rest of the party to take them down. The seeker ability is obvious.

[Strakeln]

That helps in more ways I can say and explains how my swings can go right thru the graphic and nothing happens.

That kind of thing seems to happen other times too on moving mobs. Chasing and swinging from behind seems like the same mechanic or similar? I can't run thru the graphic but I don't always seem to get rolls on the swing. Is there a workaround for that?

heh... this bug is actually in much better shape than it was in years past. For a while there, you had to be about 2-3 bodylengths in front of a fleeing mob to score a hit.