I was interested in running a Kensei/Tempest/Knight of the Chalice, but the character's feats start stretching thin. This is my replacement: an arcane (Wizard 1) Kensei (Fighter 8) Tempest (Ranger 11). My only question is....the evasion the Ranger gets at 11, is that useable in heavy armor?
Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.10 DDO Character Planner Home Page Level 20 True Neutral Dwarf Male (8 Fighter \ 11 Ranger \ 1 Wizard) Hit Points: 344 Spell Points: 385 BAB: 19\19\24\29\29 Fortitude: 16 Reflex: 13 Will: 11 Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats (32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20) Strength 16 22 24 Dexterity 16 17 18 Constitution 14 15 17 Intelligence 11 12 12 Wisdom 13 14 14 Charisma 6 7 7 Tomes Used +1 Tome of Strength used at level 11 +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11 +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 11 +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11 +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11 +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 11 Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20) Balance 5 16 20 Bluff -2 -2 -1 Concentration 2 3 3 Diplomacy -2 -2 -2 Disable Device n/a n/a n/a Haggle -2 -2 -2 Heal 3 23 23 Hide 3 4 4 Intimidate -2 -2 -2 Jump 3 30 30 Listen 1 2 2 Move Silently 3 4 4 Open Lock n/a n/a n/a Perform n/a n/a n/a Repair 0 1 1 Search 0 1 3 Spot 1 2 2 Swim 3 7 7 Tumble n/a n/a n/a Use Magic Device n/a 8.5 8.5 Level 1 (Wizard) Skill: Balance (+2) Skill: Heal (+2) Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell Feat: (Selected) Toughness Feat: (Automatic) Attack Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stability Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stonecutting Feat: (Automatic) Giant Evasion Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability Feat: (Automatic) Inscribe Scroll Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training Feat: (Automatic) Orc and Goblin Bonus Feat: (Automatic) Poison Save Bonus Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Club Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Dagger Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Heavy Crossbow Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Light Crossbow Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Quarterstaff Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Throwing Dagger Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Unarmed Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Feat: (Automatic) Spell Save Bonus Enhancement: Dwarven Armor Mastery I Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I Level 2 (Ranger) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Heal (+3) Skill: Jump (+2) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Dwarven Waraxe Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL) Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General) Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Sunder Feat: (Automatic) Trip Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I Level 3 (Ranger) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Heal (+1) Skill: Jump (+4) Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I Level 4 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+1) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I Level 5 (Ranger) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Heal (+2) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Feat: (Automatic) Diehard Enhancement: Dwarven Armor Mastery II Level 6 (Ranger) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Heal (+1) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5) Feat: (Selected) Dodge Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense II Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Level 7 (Ranger) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Heal (+1) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider Level 8 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+1) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Mobility Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II Level 9 (Ranger) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Heal (+2) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot Enhancement: Racial Toughness III Enhancement: Fighter Strength I Level 10 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+1) Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack II Level 11 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+1) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II Level 12 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV Level 13 (Ranger) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Heal (+4) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Automatic) Improved Wild Empathy Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I Level 14 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Heal (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+1) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I Level 15 (Ranger) Feat: (Selected) Iron Will Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense III Enhancement: Kensei Dwarven Waraxe Mastery I Level 16 (Ranger) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Balance (+1) Skill: Heal (+2) Skill: Jump (+2) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Automatic) Evasion Enhancement: Fighter Strength II Level 17 (Ranger) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Heal (+1) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+2) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II Level 18 (Ranger) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Heal (+1) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+2) Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness Feat: (Automatic) Improved Precise Shot Feat: (Automatic) Precise Shot Enhancement: Dwarven Armor Mastery III Level 19 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+1) Skill: Jump (+1) Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III Level 20 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Heal (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+1) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost I Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery I Enhancement: Fighter Dwarven Waraxe Specialization I
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11-22-2009, 11:02 PM #1Founder
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Arcane Kensei Tempest - Am I missing anything?
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11-22-2009, 11:06 PM #2Founder
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11-22-2009, 11:06 PM #3Founder
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Evasion, regardless of source doesn't work in heavy armor.
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11-22-2009, 11:08 PM #4
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11-23-2009, 11:04 AM #5Founder
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Ok, accounting for only light armor to use evasion at Ranger 9, I switched from Dwarven to Warforged and now use Khopeshes instead of Dwarven Waraxes. I was hoping for a little more critiquing from the community about this build or if this build has already been posted on the boards.
Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.10 DDO Character Planner Home Page Level 20 True Neutral Warforged Male (10 Fighter \ 9 Ranger \ 1 Wizard) Hit Points: 378 Spell Points: 228 BAB: 19\19\24\29\29 Fortitude: 17 Reflex: 13 Will: 9 Starting Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats (32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) Strength 16 23 Dexterity 16 18 Constitution 14 18 Intelligence 11 12 Wisdom 11 12 Charisma 6 7 Tomes Used +1 Tome of Strength used at level 6 +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 6 +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 6 +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6 +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 6 +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 6 Starting Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) Balance 5 15.5 Bluff -2 -1 Concentration 2 4 Diplomacy -2 -2 Disable Device n/a n/a Haggle -2 -2 Heal 0 1 Hide 3 4 Intimidate -2 -2 Jump 3 21 Listen 0 1 Move Silently 3 4 Open Lock n/a n/a Perform n/a n/a Repair 0 24 Search 0 1 Spot 0 1 Swim 3 6 Tumble n/a n/a Use Magic Device 0 9.5 Level 1 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+2) Skill: Use Magic Device (+2) Feat: (Selected) Toughness Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Feat: (Automatic) Attack Feat: (Automatic) Composite Plating Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Light Fortification Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL) Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General) Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Feat: (Automatic) Sunder Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Trip Feat: (Automatic) Warforged Resistances Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction I Level 2 (Ranger) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Repair (+2) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I Enhancement: Warforged Brute Fighting I Enhancement: Warforged Inscribed Armor I Level 3 (Ranger) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Repair (+2) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Dodge Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I Level 4 (Wizard) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Repair (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell Feat: (Automatic) Inscribe Scroll Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training Spell (1): Mage Armor Spell (1): Repair Light Damage Spell (1): Shield Spell (1): Protection From Evil Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I Enhancement: Warforged Construct Thinking I Level 5 (Fighter) Skill: Repair (+2) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh Enhancement: Fighter Strength I Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I Level 6 (Ranger) Skill: Balance (+1.5) Skill: Repair (+0.5) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Feat: (Selected) Mobility Feat: (Automatic) Diehard Enhancement: Warforged Construct Thinking II Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction II Level 7 (Ranger) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Repair (+2.5) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (1): Camouflage Spell (1): Jump Spell (1): Longstrider Spell (1): Merfolk's Blessing Spell (1): Ram's Might Spell (1): Resist Energy Spell (1): Summon Nature's Ally I Spell (1): Tumble Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Enhancement: Warforged Brute Fighting II Level 8 (Ranger) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+3) Skill: Repair (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II Level 9 (Ranger) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+3) Skill: Repair (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I Level 10 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Repair (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery I Enhancement: Racial Toughness III Level 11 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Repair (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II Level 12 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Repair (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV Level 13 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Repair (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I Level 14 (Ranger) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+3) Skill: Repair (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Automatic) Improved Wild Empathy Enhancement: Kensei Khopesh Mastery I Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II Level 15 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Repair (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery II Level 16 (Ranger) Ability Raise: CON Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+3) Skill: Repair (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (2): Barkskin Spell (2): Bear's Endurance Spell (2): Cat's Grace Spell (2): Cure Light Wounds Spell (2): Hold Animal Spell (2): Mass Camouflage Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom Spell (2): Protection From Energy Spell (2): Snare Spell (2): Spike Growth Spell (2): Summon Nature's Ally II Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III Level 17 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Repair (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Fighter Khopesh Specialization I Enhancement: Fighter Strength II Level 18 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Repair (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Improved Damage Reduction Enhancement: Warforged Construct Thinking III Level 19 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Repair (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction III Level 20 (Ranger) Ability Raise: CON Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+3) Skill: Repair (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Automatic) Evasion Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV
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11-23-2009, 11:17 AM #6Community Member
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It might help if you tell people what exactly you are trying to accomplish with this build and why you took 10 levels of ftr 9 ranger and 1 wiz.
Usually people will stop at 12 ftr for the 2nd tier of either kensai or stalwart. Stopping at 10seems to be cutting it short.
If your going for evasion, there's better choices to get it faster. Like 2 rogue or 2 monk.
I can see taking 1 level of Wiz on a WF, but you also were going to take it ona Dwarf. What's the purpose you envision for the 1 level of Wiz. Seems like it's not really that useful.
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11-23-2009, 11:30 AM #7Community Member
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I would suggest the more common build 12 Ftr/6 Rgr/2 Rog.
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11-23-2009, 11:38 AM #8Founder
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I took the Wizard level for the bonus feat of Evasion, as well as the spell point boost, and being able to use arcane wands. 9 levels of ranger was primarily for the evasion, and I was either going to go to 8 or 9 for the second level Ranger spells. That left me with the 10 levels of fighter.
I primarily wanted a Kensei / Tempest TWF build with either Dwarven Waraxes or Khopeshes, and getting the TWF and iTWF feats for free at 2 and 6 was optimal. I was able to get Tempest I at the 6th level of Ranger, but if I stopped there I would not get any 2nd level ranger spells. I guess my other option would be to go 12 Fighter/6 Ranger/2 Rogue. Would this give me enough skill points to get UMD up high enough to be more reliable? At what levels should I take Rogue at to get the most out of the skill points then?
After being away from the game for several years, and only playing straight classes then, the builds have definitely gotten more complicated. Thanks.
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11-23-2009, 11:57 AM #9Community Member
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Any rogue splash should be done at first level for the skill points then if a second level should be done at about lvl 8-9 imo
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11-23-2009, 12:03 PM #10Community Member
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Try looking at the builds listed by Tanimal under Fighter .I think any of them will accomplish what you are looking for and are all decent builds
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=209918 Originally Posted by Keeper
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11-23-2009, 12:05 PM #11Community Member
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Most people say 8-9 because they want evasion before gianthold. If you're really looking to max skill points then they should wait till 13. Originally Posted by WilliamBraveheart
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11-23-2009, 12:11 PM #12Community Member
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You get some really good free feats at ranger 11 (Greater Two weapon fighting, Precise Shot, Improved Precise Shot), plus your resist energy spell maxes out at 11 (you get 30 points of resistance at 11).
Going from fighter 8 to fighter 10 gets you an extra feat...
I would definitely go 11/8/1 ranger/fighter/wizard instead of 9/10/1
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