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    Question Fighter with 1 Bard level?

    I was wondering if an Elf with 1 level of Bard (for Energy of the Music enhancement and Cure1 spell) and Mental Toughness, with the rest of the levels as a Fighter would be able to take advantage of the Arcane Archer Prestige Enhancements at level 9?

    I've already got 3 levels of Fighter with Point Blank Shot, Rapid Shot and Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons.

    Will this end up being a viable build for a Bow user?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catholicon View Post
    I was wondering if an Elf with 1 level of Bard (for Energy of the Music enhancement and Cure1 spell) and Mental Toughness, with the rest of the levels as a Fighter would be able to take advantage of the Arcane Archer Prestige Enhancements at level 9?

    I've already got 3 levels of Fighter with Point Blank Shot, Rapid Shot and Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons.

    Will this end up being a viable build for a Bow user?
    The better quest is a bow user a viable build.

    The answer is no.

    If you have mental toughness, you do not need the bard level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydra_ex View Post
    The better quest is a bow user a viable build.

    The answer is no.

    If you have mental toughness, you do not need the bard level.
    a pure fighter cant take mental toughness.

    When I duel someone I like to dual wield. with my rouge wearing rogue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulken View Post
    a pure fighter cant take mental toughness.
    Then the whole fighter is useless. The only sensible thing is 20 ranger for the capstone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydra_ex View Post
    Then the whole fighter is useless. The only sensible thing is 20 ranger for the capstone.
    Yep but his bard idea would work but not be a very viable end game character, ranged is sadly lacking in this game.

    When I duel someone I like to dual wield. with my rouge wearing rogue.

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    The straight answer to your quest is yes 1 level of bard will allo arcane archer. In order to take mental toughness
    you must first be able to cast spellls, so by taking a bard level u can take mental toughness or energy of music to qualify for the PrE. U could also take 4 levels of ranger or paladin, or 1 level of wizard or sorcerer to be quialified as well.

    Is it a viable build, well that depends, if your basically a fighter probably yes if you accept the fact that ranging should probably consist of maybe 20% of your total dps. Pick up the 2 weapon fighting chain and if your an elf u can also grab the displacement dragonmark. U will not be top end dps if u specialise in range.

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    How about, instead of one level of Bard & Mental Toughness, I took one level of Favoured Soul of the Silver Flame & Mental Toughness for the +1 to hit with Longbows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catholicon View Post
    How about, instead of one level of Bard & Mental Toughness, I took one level of Favoured Soul of the Silver Flame & Mental Toughness for the +1 to hit with Longbows?
    I think you would be disapointed, the best ranged character will most likely be a lv 20 ranger and even then they would be better off fighting melee.

    When I duel someone I like to dual wield. with my rouge wearing rogue.

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    A pure fighter can be as good as a pure ranger, thanks to the alacrity from the fighter capstone, but he can't take Arcane Archer.

    In general, there are some good arguments for a 19f/1bard build - Skills, maximum possible UMD, use of (low spell level) bard wands and scrolls... but any ranged build will be weak.

    I guess the question is what would be left over to make that build a deent TWF or THF melee after mental toughness, multishot, point blank shot, Improved Crit: Ranged, etc etc.
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    10% attack speed from the capstone is way better then those 1d6 damage you get from the force arrows
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    Go 1 lvl of Bard and 1 lvl of ranger then all fighter ( 18 ), This will give you your Arcane Archer and bow str. If you want then you can take Kensei Mastery 3 long bow with the elf's enhancements line.

    Remember this is just a game and if you have fun with this build and type of fighting style then go for it.
    Last edited by rezo; 11-22-2009 at 02:28 PM.
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    Real answer: check back after they announce the rest of Arcane Archer's tiers. If you're getting an endless supply of +3 1d6 force arrows, it will never be worth it. If they add slayer arrows, other spell imbuements like fireball, then that's a different ball game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rezo View Post
    Remember this is just a game and if you have fun with this build and type of fighting style then go for it.
    Thanks. :-) That's good advice.

    I've decided to try out a FSoul1/Ranger3/Fighter16 and see how I like it. Y'know, because I'm playing for fun and stuff.
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