Ripping my hair out

[SavvyGabby]

Okay, I like the game. I test drove it with a DDO version set up of a pally for a while before I decided to look for a rock solid build. I tried a battle cleric for solo build but the debates on the build driving me nuts. I have a tempest trap monkey thats doing well on duo.

I also was thinking of a pally tank, but people say its considered dead weight, which I don't want.

The cleric, Well I deleted her. Cause I am so confused on whats good whats not this is this isn't blah blah... I am starting to get a headache from reading debates, its not helping me figure out what way to go. I like the game but now from so many different things I don't know what to do what to choose or what to play.

Unfortunately I am working with 28pts I am stuck with it till I get 32pt and drow weather I like it or not. What should I do. I am so confused I just cant make up my mind now. My reason for a 28pt build is because Build is better then DDO's pre-set up junk.

I like the pally I started with but there hard to build with out 32pts or drow. Okay well What is possibly good to get the 32pts ,that'll survive?????
I liked the battle cleric but I don't know what build is good or not that wont be a total mess at the end.

Apparently nothing is that decent with out the 32pt build but I just need something that is solid that fights tough, heals and buffs, but that wont be dead weight to get me my points and drow but I don't know what way to go on a 28pt build its driving me nuts .

I went with battle cleric cause I like how it played so far. But I deleted her cause I'm to confused. I am going to make another one, again don't know what to go with.

Is there any success stories with a build? I like builds that people that have actually played there selves and were successful with it.

I am a girl trying to make a char to get my stuff unlocked.

I am sorry if I sound mean up there don't mean too lol Just blowing off steam cause my head was spinning and bout ready to burst.

[chrisgina39]

well its not battle clerics people hate its clerics that dont heal
as 4 what build to take whatever u like playing

a builds only as good as its fun to play

[Tyrande]

Its your game. Play it any way that you think it is fun.

Just make sure you don't hurt other people's fun. Then you're okay.

Don't worry about your builds or what other people say.

Experiment and figure it out for yourselves the best combination. Its like experimenting with building your own computer.

Three things to remember for melee characters, if that's what you are looking for:

1) Make sure you have heavy fortification.

2) Make sure CON is not a dump stat and crank up HP as much as possible.

3) Find the correct weapons that is best for the monsters that you are fighting.

Now's its just 3 easy baby steps...

[biggin]

Here's the problem as I see it: you're trying to do too much. Let's take for example a BC. You need STR, WIS, CON, maybe some DEX if your going TWF, maybe some CHA for radiant servant, etc. You may want to try focusing your efforts on something you can do. Maybe an OCC Cleric? Ranger for a little healing and buffs? Maybe just try a straight max STR/CON FTR or Barb. The game will be frustrating because without good gear and stats pallies and BC's are tough to pull off. Heck, BC's are one of the toughest things in DDO to play well, and you picked it as a first toon.

My advice would be to pick something and focus on it, only to see what you really will like to play. SOmetimes what we think we like doing and what actually translates to the game are 2 different things. I played only clerics for 3 years. I built just about every kind of cleric you could think of. Then a guildie was looking for Heavy Picks, so I started collecting them for him. He decided not to roll the toon up, so I decided why not give a Barb a try? Turns out I love playing a melee toon. If you had asked me before I capped one I would have told you it looked like the most boring toon to play.

Also you may want to try a THF bard. It can cast some, melee some, great buffs, and at the end of it all you have a plat machine. Bards are always welcome additions to any party that know anything about DDO, and they can be so versatile that you can play it any way you want to. As long as you sing a few songs at the beginning of the quest, the rest of the quest time is up to you.

[Xenus_Paradox]

Half-Elf 17 Cleric/2 Monk/1 Rogue with Paladin for Dilettante feat is a great solo build. Gets you, 9th-level spells, trap skills, evasion, Wisdom to AC, and (once update 8 goes live) up to 5 points of Charisma to saves, plus 1d6 sneak attack, and 2 martial arts feats (I suggest Toughness and Weapon Finesse).

[Tanka]

Half-Elf 17 Cleric/2 Monk/1 Rogue with Paladin for Dilettante feat is a great solo build. Gets you, 9th-level spells, trap skills, evasion, Wisdom to AC, and (once update 8 goes live) up to 5 points of Charisma to saves, plus Leap of Faith, 1d6 sneak attack, and 2 martial arts feats (I suggest Toughness and Weapon Finesse).

You suggested Cleric, not FvS. He won't get Leap of Faith.

[Xenus_Paradox]

You suggested Cleric, not FvS. He won't get Leap of Faith.

Originally wrote FvS, then changed it before posting.

[SavvyGabby]

Here's the problem as I see it: you're trying to do too much. Let's take for example a BC. You need STR, WIS, CON, maybe some DEX if your going TWF, maybe some CHA for radiant servant, etc. You may want to try focusing your efforts on something you can do. Maybe an OCC Cleric? Ranger for a little healing and buffs? Maybe just try a straight max STR/CON FTR or Barb. The game will be frustrating because without good gear and stats pallies and BC's are tough to pull off. Heck, BC's are one of the toughest things in DDO to play well, and you picked it as a first toon.

My advice would be to pick something and focus on it, only to see what you really will like to play. SOmetimes what we think we like doing and what actually translates to the game are 2 different things. I played only clerics for 3 years. I built just about every kind of cleric you could think of. Then a guildie was looking for Heavy Picks, so I started collecting them for him. He decided not to roll the toon up, so I decided why not give a Barb a try? Turns out I love playing a melee toon. If you had asked me before I capped one I would have told you it looked like the most boring toon to play.

Also you may want to try a THF bard. It can cast some, melee some, great buffs, and at the end of it all you have a plat machine. Bards are always welcome additions to any party that know anything about DDO, and they can be so versatile that you can play it any way you want to. As long as you sing a few songs at the beginning of the quest, the rest of the quest time is up to you.

oooh lol yea I guess I am trying to get to much in one char. I wanna wait to make the pally till I get 32pt and drow,and the cleric I will wait on too. I have a tempest thats rouge/ranger, that I duo with already. Well I guess I'll do something with fighter, cause It don't have to heal and buff I just want it to get me my stuff unlocked. I can use potions if I cant heal my self. I saw this blitz build and am wondering if it'll get me my stuff unlocked or not
This the blitz I seen

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.7.2
DDO Character Planner Home Page

Level 20 Chaotic Good Elf Male
(12 Fighter \ 6 Barbarian \ 2 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 370
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 9
Will: 5

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    23
Dexterity            10                    10
Constitution         14                    14
Intelligence         14                    14
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma             10                    10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               2                    10
Bluff                 0                     2
Concentration         2                     4
Diplomacy             0                     2
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                0                     0
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  0                     0
Intimidate            4                    25
Jump                  7                    20
Listen               -1                    24
Move Silently         0                     0
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                2                     2
Search                2                     4
Spot                 -1                     1
Swim                  3                     6
Tumble                1                     1
Use Magic Device      1                    23

Level 1 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I


Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 3 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Fighter Flanking Mastery I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I


Level 5 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 6 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Stunning Blow
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Kensei Falchion Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I


Level 7 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+0.5)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 9 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage II


Level 10 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Quick Draw
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Attack II


Level 11 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+0.5)
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I
Enhancement: Fighter Falchion Specialization I


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Listen (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II


Level 13 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Listen (+4)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV


Level 14 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Listen (+4)
Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I


Level 15 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Listen (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Improved Damage Reduction I
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I


Level 16 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Listen (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I


Level 17 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Listen (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)


Level 18 (Barbarian)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Listen (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker I


Level 19 (Rogue)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+10)
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Skill: Listen (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+6)

RESET ENHANCEMENTS

Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Barbarian Improved Damage Reduction I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Kensei Falchion Mastery I
Enhancement: Kensei Falchion Mastery II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
Enhancement: Fighter Falchion Specialization I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II

Is it solid??

[SavvyGabby]

LOL Sorry just letting off steam too cause my head was spinning and bout ready to burst.

[SavvyGabby]

You suggested Cleric, not FvS. He won't get Leap of Faith.

xD She not he I am a she

[Tanka]

xD She not he I am a she

My apologies. I've never gotten in the habit of using gender neutral pronouns.

[SavvyGabby]

My apologies. I've never gotten in the habit of using gender neutral pronouns.

lol its okay :P Idk how to get an avatar in the forum lol or I'd make it clear that way.

[SavvyGabby]

well its not battle clerics people hate its clerics that dont heal
as 4 what build to take whatever u like playing

a builds only as good as its fun to play

I was having fun on my cleric. I asked a question in a post though to the build I was using and it didn't get answered well cause people debating over this and that which made me kinda fed up with my cleric and i think i'll wait on it till i get the 32pts cause I am fed up with confusing arguing over whats good and who thinks whats no good on what someone suggested, when I ask a question on it in its build lol.

[biggin]

lol its okay :P Idk how to get an avatar in the forum lol or I'd make it clear that way.

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[biggin]

I was having fun on my cleric. I asked a question in a post though to the build I was using and it didn't get answered well cause people debating over this and that which made me kinda fed up with my cleric and i think i'll wait on it till i get the 32pts cause I am fed up with confusing arguing over whats good and who thinks whats no good on what someone suggested, when I ask a question on it in its build lol.

The important thing to remember when asking build questions on here is that most of it (unless it's out and out wrong) is that personal preference comes a lot into play. You have to learn your own playstyle before most of it will either make a ton of sense or be dismissed right away. And it's not that the people who answer are either right or wrong, it just makes it more right or wrong for the way you play.

[SavvyGabby]

The important thing to remember when asking build questions on here is that most of it (unless it's out and out wrong) is that personal preference comes a lot into play. You have to learn your own playstyle before most of it will either make a ton of sense or be dismissed right away. And it's not that the people who answer are either right or wrong, it just makes it more right or wrong for the way you play.

I see. I know. I was getting confused over debated though I do understand people are right for there own reasons and just giving there opinion, but it just got too confusing.

[SavvyGabby]

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ahhhh thank you... I got it now

[SavvyGabby]

The important thing to remember when asking build questions on here is that most of it (unless it's out and out wrong) is that personal preference comes a lot into play. You have to learn your own playstyle before most of it will either make a ton of sense or be dismissed right away. And it's not that the people who answer are either right or wrong, it just makes it more right or wrong for the way you play.

The question I asked was if it was ok to cross 2 cleric builds into 1. I mean like 2 battle cleric builds. Cause one told me where to put my skill points in a easy manner then the other. I didn't know where to put my starting skills in. Then someones like oh u should try the game first before u build, which I did lol before I even asked for a build and people don't like clerics cause they wont heal others. Well I will heal others but I liked my battle cleric I wasn't planing on being stingy with healing if your gonna help me fight then of course I'd return the favor and heal them. Then the person who made the build told me I didn't mess up to much but it was too late cause I got mad and deleted it lol.

I enjoy running around and plowing lol monsters pretty much. With the ability to heal my self or others. Even if it isn't a big heal. But if I go with something like fighter I don't mind having to use Pots or nanny bots if I need them. I just like characters that are like a killing machine, that wont have problems with special items, gear or tomes. which I don't know what that class, muilticlass is yet.

[Nysrock]

Now first off, saying that you CAN'T be a solid build with 28pts is BS. I just recently TR'd on of the very first characters I made when DDO first came out. He was a 18/2 Ranger/Fighter Dwarf. Now back in the day when I made him the level cap was 10 and there were no prestige classes so I started him out with the following stats 18/10/14/8/14/6. Of course once they came out with prestige classes I had to wait until I could find a +3 Dex tome to get Tempest.

I'm not saying he was a perfect build, I had maxed out Heal skill , Jump and Spot with some leftover in Search. But by the time he hit 20 and could TR I had all the devotion enhancements, around 460hp and 570sp. I could self heal for about 100-150 normal and crit for about 250. That along with the buffs gave me a very survivable character.

I did TR him though because it was nice to actually have more build pts. Plus I dropped 1 level of fighter for 1 level of rogue. I lose 1 str doing that but this way I can have max UMD which is a must on all of my current builds. And I gain some sneak damage which is always nice.

Not sure if this helps you or not but I love my Dwarf Ranger TWF. Might want to look into one of them as they are not as complicated as some multiclass builds and can still solo a lot of quests.

[SavvyGabby]

Now first off, saying that you CAN'T be a solid build with 28pts is BS. I just recently TR'd on of the very first characters I made when DDO first came out. He was a 18/2 Ranger/Fighter Dwarf. Now back in the day when I made him the level cap was 10 and there were no prestige classes so I started him out with the following stats 18/10/14/8/14/6. Of course once they came out with prestige classes I had to wait until I could find a +3 Dex tome to get Tempest.

I'm not saying he was a perfect build, I had maxed out Heal skill , Jump and Spot with some leftover in Search. But by the time he hit 20 and could TR I had all the devotion enhancements, around 460hp and 570sp. I could self heal for about 100-150 normal and crit for about 250. That along with the buffs gave me a very survivable character.

I did TR him though because it was nice to actually have more build pts. Plus I dropped 1 level of fighter for 1 level of rogue. I lose 1 str doing that but this way I can have max UMD which is a must on all of my current builds. And I gain some sneak damage which is always nice.

Not sure if this helps you or not but I love my Dwarf Ranger TWF. Might want to look into one of them as they are not as complicated as some multiclass builds and can still solo a lot of quests.

ahh I see. Well I didn't know a solid 28pt build was possible, cause lol every time I read stuff I see comments saying oh not good with out 32 pts and oh that don't do well with out this with out that lol that got confusing too. Thank you for telling me that there is such thing as a 28pt solid build. Now okay ranger is good with it, but what about other classes? I do like the elves and TWF. But I already made a tempest trap monkey that I am duoing with my bf. This is a second char I wanna make for soloing, for when my bf cant duo with me. Most of my problem is too is too many choices and cant make up my mind too.

I liked the 18 cleric/2 fighter I had but lol I gotta re-do it, I did have a lot of fun on it. She was able to do a 200 lizard thing spawn in the second town and the sailors blow up the boat orc island quest solo with a nanny bot but I used a favor soul for a nanny bot. But then xD I see calling it a nanny bot making fun of it. Like its somthing I shouldnt be proud of cause I used a nanny bot.. I don't care if I need nanny bots or not to help me fight solo just as long as I get my stuff I want unlocked.