mechanic/repeat xbow rogue

[chodelord]

yes I know this is a suboptimal build and will never do pew pew dps and probably isnt "endgame" viable, don't care

call these roleplaying limitations or whatever, but im looking for the best build I can with these parameters

for start definitely I'm definitely going 13 rogue for the last smite construct and 2nd rogue special feat after mechanic 2

question 1 is what do I do with the rest of the levels?

considered options:
1. ranger 6 + wizard/bard 1? for arcane archer and force missiles: gives me the option to respect into a pew pew tempest/rogue build if I choose
2. fighter 6 + x 1 for kensai 1, feats, specialization: again gives pew pew respec options if I end up hating xbow
3. rogue 6 + fighter 1: finish out rogue, get special abilities and more sneaks
4. monk 6-7: monkey trap resists stack with rogue trap resists, feats help qualify for shot on the run, not much else
5. bard 7: haste bot and then some
6. paladin 6 + x (probly fighter 1): smites, aura for utility, saves

question 2 is what is the best race for the best choice?

1. drow for spell resists and rogue stats/racials
2. human for feat and skills and boosts
3. halfling for saves, attack bonus, enhancements
4. warforged, self heal w/mechanic...thats it i think

[Dylos_Moon]

Remember that elves can qualify as arcane archers too, so you could go with Rogue13/Fighter6/Wizard1 for Mechanic 2, Kensei 1, and Arcane Archer.

[chodelord]

Remember that elves can qualify as arcane archers too, so you could go with Rogue13/Fighter6/Wizard1 for Mechanic 2, Kensei 1, and Arcane Archer.

perfect, thank you for the tip, that seems like the best choice then

[Xykal]

perfect, thank you for the tip, that seems like the best choice then

I have a similar build that's a lot of fun. I wouldn't recommend going down the Kensai route. It really doesn't add that much to the build because the vast majority of your damage will come from sneak attacks. You can't modify the base damage of the Repeating Heavy Crossbow much because it isn't affected by Str or Dex. More rogue levels = more sneak attack damage. And you have to pretty close, btw. Almost in melee range.

My build will be an 18 rogue / 1 fighter / 1 wizard elf with Assassin 3 for the vorpal bolts and Arcane Archer for the force bolts. You can swap in Mechanic for more trapsmithing, but I wouldn't recommend much less in the way of rogue levels.

It's a fun build if you can make the DPS worthwhile. I hope you enjoy it. =)

[Strype.McClaine]

My two coper pieces worth...
I had been thinking of a rogue/fighter/bard arcane archer....
More skill points conserved.
Damage song for when with out a REAL bard acts like additional str damage, before the critical multiplier (I think...)
Heal wands w/out UMD, scroll versatility.
A few utilitarian spells (focusing chant anyone?)

Wizard splash is nice on alot of archer builds (fire arrow wands for the mid levels anyone?)
[I wish my pure ranger had just taken mental toughness instead of the wiz splash on that one]

But A rogue with bows...
Shooting Assassin 3 sneak attack arrows....
I think my heart just skipped a beat...
Isn't that what an arcane archer REALLY IS?

[Zedarion]

im currently building a very similar build with Rogue13/Ranger6/wizard1 Arcane Archer Mecanic but i use Longbow

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Level 20 Lawful Good Drow Female
(13 Rogue \ 6 Ranger \ 1 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 150
Spell Points: 255 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 9
Reflex: 21
Will: 10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Stats          Modified Stats
Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             10                    10
Dexterity            18                    26
Constitution         10                    10
Intelligence         16                    16
Wisdom               14                    14
Charisma             10                    10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    10
Bluff                 0                     0
Concentration         0                     5
Diplomacy             4                    24
Disable Device        7                    32
Haggle                4                    12
Heal                  2                     3
Hide                  8                    31
Intimidate            0                     0
Jump                  0                     7
Listen                2                     5
Move Silently         8                    31
Open Lock             8                    36
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                3                     7
Search                7                    34
Spot                  6                    35
Swim                  2                     4
Tumble                8                    16
Use Magic Device      4                    27.5

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Hide (+4)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Swim (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Drow Spell Resistance
Feat: (Automatic) Elven Keen Senses
Feat: (Automatic) Enchantment Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Immunity to Sleep
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Spell Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding


Level 2 (Ranger)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy


Level 3 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion


Level 4 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Automatic) Trap Sense


Level 5 (Ranger)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Swim (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 6 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse
Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge


Level 7 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Diehard


Level 8 (Ranger)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2.5)


Level 9 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+5)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Inscribe Scroll
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Rogue Sonic Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device II
Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock I
Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock II
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense II


Level 10 (Ranger)
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Listen (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+2)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Spot (+2)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider


Level 11 (Ranger)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot
Enhancement: Ranger Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Ranger Arcane Archer I


Level 12 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+5)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 13 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Mechanic I


Level 14 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+5)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost III


Level 15 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Power Critical
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Uncanny Dodge
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device III
Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock III


Level 16 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)


Level 17 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Slippery Mind


Level 18 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot


Level 19 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost III
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost IV
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost IV
Enhancement: Elven Perception I
Enhancement: Elven Keen Eyes I
Enhancement: Elven Keen Eyes II
Enhancement: Rogue Mechanic II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV
Enhancement: Rogue Search I
Enhancement: Rogue Spot I
Enhancement: Rogue Spot II


Level 20 (Rogue)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+5)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Defensive Roll
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II

remember its still not realy done, some changes may be done to it while i play (and im not shure about the wizard part)