Need feedback on two builds!

[Electricutie]

Me and my boyfriend have been playing for about a month and a half. We have been learning this game and think it is time to make "mains" with the goal of eventually being 20 with a few more packs. We have been making many toons on multiple servers experiencing different types of game play but have yet to experience a raid or any mid level content. These two builds are a mix of what we enjoyed the most while grinding TP.

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Arcane Tempest
Level 20 Chaotic Good Drow Male
(6 Fighter \ 6 Ranger \ 8 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 232
Spell Points: 463 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 13
Reflex: 14
Will: 9

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Stats          Modified Stats
Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    22
Dexterity            16                    20
Constitution         12                    12
Intelligence         16                    18
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma             10                    10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               5                    16
Bluff                 0                     1
Concentration         5                    24
Diplomacy             0                     0
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                2                    11
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  6                     8
Intimidate            0                     0
Jump                  7                    21
Listen               -1                     1
Move Silently         6                     8
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                3                     4
Search                7                    15
Spot                  3                    19
Swim                  3                     6
Tumble                4                     6
Use Magic Device      2                    11

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense I


Level 2 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Fluidity I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I


Level 3 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence I
Enhancement: Wizard Wand Mastery I


Level 4 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Improved Spell Resistance I


Level 5 (Wizard)


Level 6 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Quickening I
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar II
Enhancement: Wizard Wand Mastery II


Level 7 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I


Level 8 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Fluidity II
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility


Level 10 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Fluidity III


Level 11 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant


Level 12 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I


Level 13 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence II


Level 14 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Quickening II


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 16 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 17 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 19 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Kensei Khopesh Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II


Level 20 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation I
Enhancement: Wizard Wand Mastery III

With this build I tried to make a viable dual-wield melee DPS that self buffs and has a little bit of CC/AoE.

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Divine Tempest
Level 20 Chaotic Good Human Female
(2 Fighter \ 6 Ranger \ 12 Cleric) 
Hit Points: 256
Spell Points: 794 
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 14
Will: 14

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Stats          Modified Stats
Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    20
Dexterity            16                    20
Constitution         12                    12
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom               15                    18
Charisma              8                     8

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               5                    16
Bluff                -1                    -1
Concentration         5                    24
Diplomacy            -1                    -1
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle                1                     6
Heal                  2                     4
Hide                  3                     5
Intimidate           -1                    -1
Jump                  6                    10
Listen                2                     4
Move Silently         3                     5
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                    -1
Search               -1                    -1
Spot                  6                    12
Swim                  2                     5
Tumble                5                     9
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Human Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I


Level 2 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I


Level 3 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I
Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 4 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Human Versatility II


Level 5 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I


Level 6 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot II


Level 7 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery II


Level 8 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Human Versatility III
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility


Level 10 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery III


Level 11 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant


Level 12 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II


Level 13 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II


Level 14 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 16 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II


Level 17 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot III


Level 18 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery III


Level 19 (Cleric)


Level 20 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom III
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Healing I

Same thing here, viable dual-wield DPS that can self buff but with the added versatility of healing and various dispels.



Novice builder with no mid-end game experience and no PnP background.
Are these builds viable? If not can I improve anywhere or should I just scrap them?

Also what alignment is most beneficial? Picked Chaotic because I think True Chaos weapons are pretty. >.>

[hydra_ex]

Your first build is not worth it.

You should never multiclass as caster, unless you're a WF. If you want to do the first build, go WF sorc 12/fighter 6/paladin 2.

If you want the second, just go elf FvS 12/6 rgr/2 monk, or just 14 FvS/6 rgr.

If you don't want to get WF, scrap the first build, and make a bard (either pure or 2 fighter lvls, warchanter... search for axesinger build) instead.

If you don't to buy FvS, just go cleric with 2 fighter lvls. Clr 12/6 rgr/2 monk works really well also.

[Electricutie]

Thank you for the input Hydra.

Only have access to the classes/races of a F2P and will be that way for a while.

Back to the planner it seems, I'll check out that Axesinger build as well, thanks again!

[Kafanar]

As a new player multiclassing is not a good option. Most of the crazy builds with multiclass you see are made by players who have multiple capped toons and have been around DDO for awhile. It takes time to learn what you as a player like and also what stacks and what doesnt stack, what will work well together and what wont. If you are looking for 2 builds that compliment each other then a WF 18/2 wizzie/rogue and a 18/2 melee/rogue is a good combo for playng together and also play well in grps. I've never done f2p so i dunno if WF are F2P. If you cant get WF then a pally build with a ranger type build go well together. There is a build out there somewhere called The Exploiter that is a good all around too i think its 18/1/1 ranger/rogue/monk kinda does everything is self sufficient does traps fair DPS good ac and so on.

[Electricutie]

Thanks Kafanar

Thought I had a good grasp on this game but apparently there is much more to learn.

Will look into that build you mentioned, maybe there is a version that doesn't include that monk level. Also WF are not available to F2P'ers as well as monks.

I've tried to educate myself through the ddowiki, various posts like Aranticus's templates post and the many "Definative" posts. I have yet to come across a "How To Build" or a "Planning for end-game" post/guide.

Can you point me in a direction?

Thanks again!