Portal Beaters

[Zynthar]

So I'm one of them weird returning players. If they ever fix shroud I may actually be able to start running it! I'm told I need a "portal beater" however.

What is one, and who's got one?

I am a 15 Human True Neutral Greatsword Kensai. Will be swapping to dwarven axes if they ever get reincarnates fixed up though.

What do I need, what do you got, and how many limbs do you want?

[Quikster]

Swapping to axes? Are you going to go dwarf then?

Plain ole GCB is ok till you can get something better. Portals take damage from the following off the top of my head.

Pure Good
Anarchic (Burst)
True Chaos
Holy (Burst)
Vicious
Maiming
Bane (GCB>CB>LCB)
Force (There are force weapons now right?)


Most peeps look for 4/5d6 weapons for portals. If no crit effects on the weapon the higher the base damage the better. If nice crit effects on a weapon the lower the threat range is usually the better. You need not be proficient, just need to be able to equip the weapons. Portals have no ac so you will hit on a 2 no matter what. Always use power attack, buffs that help are: bard song, prayer (Not recitation contrary to many n00bs opinions) rage/madstone, rage, damage boosts. Smites will work but wont crit, divine sacrifice same thing works but no crit.....wifes calling for dinner, gl.

[Samiusbot]

Us poor n00bs (well me can't speak for all n00bs) that still cast recitation at the portals, do it for that few extra points of Ac so if some mobs happen to run up I can just keep hitting the portal and not worry about healing anyone.

Part one is long enough with out everyone hitting the bloody things some, right?

Unless someone is about to die. Also it lets me see who is going to be the “problem” in part 4-5. The one that makes me stop killing portals to heal them is going to need extra healing later.

[Quikster]

Us poor n00bs (well me can't speak for all n00bs) that still cast recitation at the portals, do it for that few extra points of Ac so if some mobs happen to run up I can just keep hitting the portal and not worry about healing anyone.

Part one is long enough with out everyone hitting the bloody things some, right?

Unless someone is about to die. Also it lets me see who is going to be the “problem” in part 4-5. The one that makes me stop killing portals to heal them is going to need extra healing later.

I dont bother with helping anyones ac in pt one. If they are an ac build things shouldnt hit them much, if they arent an ac build +2 wont make a difference. Besides imo the most damage at portals is usually caused by casters.


I dont understand how +2 to ac helps you see who is the problem, but hey, some peeps still diplo chests so to each his own

[Samiusbot]

I will try it your way and stop casting it at portals. See if it makes any difference.

And i do like 10-20 points of damage a swing should i stop that too?

[Quikster]

I will try it your way and stop casting it at portals. See if it makes any difference.

And i do like 10-20 points of damage a swing should i stop that too?

You can do whatever you want. I never said recitation doesnt help ac, i said it doesnt help damage against portals. Things in shroud 1 normal have around a 42 to hit to start, some a little higher. My ac builds all stand at 55 or better, i just dont waste time buffing ac for portal beating. Im spoiled, most of the time i never see a mob once the first group is cleared, if your in groups where peeps are constantly fighting mobs maby you guys should buff to the hilt IDK.

The point was i was trying to help the op see what helps and what doesnt.

[foxx]

[QUOTE=Quikster;2556272]I dont bother with helping anyones ac in pt one. If they are an ac build things shouldnt hit them much, if they arent an ac build +2 wont make a difference. Besides imo the most damage at portals is usually caused by casters.QUOTE]





RIGHT ON
same thing i keep preaching.

[Quikster]

[QUOTE=foxx;2556304]

I dont bother with helping anyones ac in pt one. If they are an ac build things shouldnt hit them much, if they arent an ac build +2 wont make a difference. Besides imo the most damage at portals is usually caused by casters.QUOTE]





RIGHT ON
same thing i keep preaching.

And dont get me wrong, its not like casting recitation takes a bunch of time, but its the precedence it sets, next everyone is asking for bark, ac songs etc, and that leads to a bunch of time consuming buffs.

[Samiusbot]

I know it may have sounded like I was not being serous but I was. I don't have 80+ shroud runs like a lot of you guys I will take your advice and give it a try.

It is a precedence then I don't care, if people are standing around in the quest let them buff, it is the party leaders job to say that is enough lets go! I said fast.

It is a lag thing or something else I would like to know. I don't need to be adding to anything that might not be helping the party.

I understand that weapon drawing can lag people, as well as some spells. On my wizards I can just kill everything so I don't have to worry but until now I never thought about my clrs spells maybe making lag.

Hence my question about the attacking, is my 10-20 X2 for the 2 weapon fighting worth it? Or should I just stand and be a healbot?

[Quikster]

I know it may have sounded like I was not being serous but I was. I don't have 80+ shroud runs like a lot of you guys I will take your advice and give it a try.

It is a precedence then I don't care, if people are standing around in the quest let them buff, it is the party leaders job to say that is enough lets go! I said fast.

It is a lag thing or something else I would like to know. I don't need to be adding to anything that might not be helping the party.

I understand that weapon drawing can lag people, as well as some spells. On my wizards I can just kill everything so I don't have to worry but until now I never thought about my clrs spells maybe making lag.

Hence my question about the attacking, is my 10-20 X2 for the 2 weapon fighting worth it? Or should I just stand and be a healbot?

Its not you, its the 5k shroud runs that peeps buffed to the hilt, recalled for mana, blah blah blah, lets just go already

Always hit portals

[Zynthar]

Swapping to axes? Are you going to go dwarf then?

Plain ole GCB is ok till you can get something better. Portals take damage from the following off the top of my head.

Pure Good
Anarchic (Burst)
True Chaos
Holy (Burst)
Vicious
Maiming
Bane (GCB>CB>LCB)
Force (There are force weapons now right?)

I don't have any kopeshes and I just like how axes look. I have a +4 holy GS of maiming I've been using as main dps weapon. I'll just keep using that and keep an eye out for those dwarven axes if reincarnate ever comes out. Being true neutral kinda sucks, but this is my original pre-mod 1 and Pure Good 28 point guy. Stability was uber back in the day!

Thanks!

-edit- oh and yes there are force, but from what I've read they are only for handwraps. There's even force burst!

[Quikster]

I don't have any kopeshes and I just like how axes look. I have a +4 holy GS of maiming I've been using as main dps weapon. I'll just keep using that and keep an eye out for those dwarven axes if reincarnate ever comes out. Being true neutral kinda sucks, but this is my original pre-mod 1 and Pure Good 28 point guy. Stability was uber back in the day!

Thanks!

-edit- oh and yes there are force, but from what I've read they are only for handwraps. There's even force burst!

Well holyburst of gcb is the way to go then. Good luck finding one ;P

[Thelmallen]

Well holyburst of gcb is the way to go then. Good luck finding one ;P

I use a Silver Flame club. Just one cuz my sword and board DPS is uber.

[Zynthar]

Well holyburst of gcb is the way to go then. Good luck finding one ;P

I was planning on hanging out by the Shroud entrance and try mugging people.

The dang thing closed the night after I finally got flagged for it too. I'm pretty sure when I give up and say I didn't want to do Shroud anyway that it will reopen.

[Thelmallen]

I was planning on hanging out by the Shroud entrance and try mugging people.

The dang thing closed the night after I finally got flagged for it too. I'm pretty sure when I give up and say I didn't want to do Shroud anyway that it will reopen.

Patch on Monday reopens Shroud!

[Zynthar]

I'll get my brass knuckles ready!

[mediocresurgeon]

any Holy/Puregood Burst 1H weapon is cheaply made (most players are more than willing to give away smalls/mediums to a player in need) and works just fine against portals.

Plus you get a Raise Dead1/rest on the side.

If you decide to go this route, I suggest making them Warhammers so that you have a solid Undead beater too (for fights like Sor'Jek, the Black Abbot, and general use).

[mediocresurgeon]

I use a Silver Flame club. Just one cuz my sword and board DPS is uber.

Reminds me of the Silver Flame Club Shroud. There was at least one S&B as I recall.

[Zynthar]

any Holy/Puregood Burst 1H weapon is cheaply made (most players are more than willing to give away smalls/mediums to a player in need) and works just fine against portals.

Plus you get a Raise Dead1/rest on the side.

If you decide to go this route, I suggest making them Warhammers so that you have a solid Undead beater too (for fights like Sor'Jek, the Black Abbot, and general use).

Good idea! Sadly my fighter is True Neutral without a lick of UMD on'em. (see post up above somewhere where I waxed semi-poetic about a pre-mod1 fighter build)

If I don't have to worry about to hit, I can open up my search really. Think I have a longsword of GCB I can dig up.

[Quikster]

Good idea! Sadly my fighter is True Neutral without a lick of UMD on'em. (see post up above somewhere where I waxed semi-poetic about a pre-mod1 fighter build)

If I don't have to worry about to hit, I can open up my search really. Think I have a longsword of GCB I can dig up.

I think Hydro is suggesting you craft a x2 pos weapon. This will give you holy, good burst and a raise dead clickie to use. Your alignment doesnt matter when we are talking about greensteels. And yeah what i usually do is craft x3 pos warhammers (on str builds) to double as skelly beaters/undead beaters when needed. I started doing this when the news came out about the transmuting nerf, and I haven't regretted it in the slightest. X2/x3 pos weapons are solid portal beaters.