When to drop group...

[Zynthar]

So wasn't much going on for my level 15 fighter last night so out comes the lowbies. I had a bit of an epiphany last night, and realized there were certain signs that always proceeded a REALLY bad group. The first few examples caused me to drop a group advertised as WW on elite.


All Melee group (Unless doing content absurdly under level and easy)

Group leader asks "Can anyone open this on elite?"

Someone say's "gogogo"

Every time I'm in a lowbie group, or even higher, and someone starts saying gogogo before everyone's even at quest... It never ends well. Especially going into Black Anvil Mine, without healers and down two . . . on Elite.


Anyone else got any signs of impending doom?

[Solmage]

I regularly run quests without cleric on elite with my lowbies, but I try to make sure they're not more than 2-3 levels over me... For example, WW elite at level 2, Tangleroot hard at level 3, elite at 4.

As for signs of impending doom? When someone says they absolutely need a cleric to do such a quest.

[Quikster]

Stormcleave Group.

"Share Plz"

(Party):Quikster has left your party.

[eldrytch75]

Stormcleave Group.

"Share Plz"

(Party):Quikster has left your party.

When the cleric in high level content asks the question

What is a heal scroll?

ding gone

[Cyr]

Stormcleave Group.

"Share Plz"

(Party):Quikster has left your party.

Lol was it Thrann? He asks every time for share on TOD

[hermespan]

You have a party with level 7-9 people in it, none of them have done the pit and they want to open it on elite.

>ding<

complete waste of 3 hours. had a group like this, ignored my better judgment and did it with them anyway. we died, I don't know, 10x each or so because of rabbit-on-crack syndrome, get to end fight, have another party wipe because people keep running into the room, and everyone quits without finishing it.

No xp, no loot, no favor.

[angel_dragon]

when you are going into a trap heavy quest thay want to run elite and party members say we don't need a rogue and nobody in the party has rogue abiltys.

TIME TO BAIL

[Quikster]

when you are going into a trap heavy quest thay want to run elite and party members say we don't need a rogue and nobody in the party has rogue abiltys.

TIME TO BAIL

With the way traps are bugged atm I agree

[Quikster]

Lol was it Thrann? He asks every time for share on TOD

Lol. Not quite as bad as having to talk to the quest giver to get into the quest though lol. I hear peeps say, but it saves me 30 seconds of having to click through the text. Like my job is to save everyone 30 seconds?

[Quikster]

You have a party with level 7-9 people in it, none of them have done the pit and they want to open it on elite.

>ding<

complete waste of 3 hours. had a group like this, ignored my better judgment and did it with them anyway. we died, I don't know, 10x each or so because of rabbit-on-crack syndrome, get to end fight, have another party wipe because people keep running into the room, and everyone quits without finishing it.

No xp, no loot, no favor.

Uh yeah, bad call. Should be running the pit tonight or tomorrow on our lowbies. We typically dont lfm spots but we might. Keep a look out if you want a quick run.

[Zynthar]

I regularly run quests without cleric on elite with my lowbies, but I try to make sure they're not more than 2-3 levels over me... For example, WW elite at level 2, Tangleroot hard at level 3, elite at 4.

As for signs of impending doom? When someone says they absolutely need a cleric to do such a quest.

It wasn't the lack of healer that lead directly to my leaving. It was the culmination of all three.

There are times when it's just NOT worth the frustration.



It was mostly the gogogo though.. that is like a chant of doom.

[Baltire]

(Party):Assio has joined your Party.

(Party):You leave your Party.

[Katrina]

Bringing up a lowbie fvs that's heal spec'd has been painful.
I ran a 'thrall of the necromancer' the other night, lvl's 7-9... shoulda been fun....
Had 3 deaths in the fire trap at the begining... I should have taken that as a sign.
10 raise scrolls, 8 cure serious wands and an hour of painful healing later we finally drop the end guy and I hear from the (non-trap removing) rogue, "Wow... that was the easiest quest I've been on!"

/cry

[Samadhi]

"gogogo" has been my motto for long time now. Our guild founders actually wanted that to be our guildname but we didn't think of it until about two months in ><

[Hokonoso]

i don't join a group if the level range is 4-8, 5-9, 6-10, 7-11, or 8-12 etc.. as that is the default setting and anyone who starts a group with the default setting is clearly f2p and has no clue what they are doing, and that you need to narrow down your quest to 3 levels for optimum xp.

and in my experience, if the leader does not know what they are doing, then they will obviously grab the wrong classes thus making a fail run (especially on elite now that even lvl 8 elite traps 1 shot you with improved evasion on a 1 roll). until they fix how much dmg traps do on elite i forsee any group doing something on elite without a rogue at lvl will be guarnatee'd failure unless everyone in the group is a twink and has tons of rez cakes/cookies etc..

[Zenako]

OP the answer is simple. If you are in a group where you are even entertaining that thought, you should probably just drop. If the make up and style of the group is annoying at the start, it is unlikely to get any better.

I have to assume you play the game for you to have fun and if that is not happening, might as well change and see if you can have fun elsewhere. There are some players that can just suck the fun out of things for everyone in a group.

[Zenako]

i don't join a group if the level range is 4-8, 5-9, 6-10, 7-11, or 8-12 etc.. as that is the default setting and anyone who starts a group with the default setting is clearly f2p and has no clue what they are doing, and that you need to narrow down your quest to 3 levels for optimum xp.

and in my experience, if the leader does not know what they are doing, then they will obviously grab the wrong classes thus making a fail run (especially on elite now that even lvl 8 elite traps 1 shot you with improved evasion on a 1 roll). until they fix how much dmg traps do on elite i forsee any group doing something on elite without a rogue at lvl will be guarnatee'd failure unless everyone in the group is a twink and has tons of rez cakes/cookies etc..

ALAS, no rez cakes anymore...if you had some you were counting on....DON'T, they are now Searing Light Cakes...

[Zynthar]

Bringing up a lowbie fvs that's heal spec'd has been painful.
I ran a 'thrall of the necromancer' the other night, lvl's 7-9... shoulda been fun....
Had 3 deaths in the fire trap at the begining... I should have taken that as a sign.
10 raise scrolls, 8 cure serious wands and an hour of painful healing later we finally drop the end guy and I hear from the (non-trap removing) rogue, "Wow... that was the easiest quest I've been on!"

/cry

Wow... honestly, at that level, I would not expect anyone to be expending those kinds of resources. I've started up a rogue, just because of one's like that though. I figure once word gets around that I'll actually stop and disable the trap, I may get invites!

So I'm thinking should add to the list..

If half the party wipes within first thirty seconds of entering quest, run away screaming.

[moops]

If they take too long getting to the quest and getting it started
And if they insist on having not one, but 2 clerics for a quest. . .

[Zenako]

If they take too long getting to the quest and getting it started
And if they insist on having not one, but 2 clerics for a quest. . .

Well that would depend on the 1st cleric wouldn't it.... I am sure that sadly we all know of some clerics who need a healbot for themselves...