Why do people think im gimped

[HighPrior]

I was playing my 6cleric/2monk/1rogue today, and was kicked out of a PuG before we even started the mission because they thought i was gimped. Anyone else out there find this happening to them?

P.S. I had to squelch 3 of the party members after the barrage of /t 'Lern to ply' i received after the kick.

[Noctus]

Because there is no apparent reason for your particular level split.


What is the purpose of your character? In which way will he contribute to the groups success?
* Melee?
*Spellcasting?
* perhaps with additional Trap-solving?
* exclusively trapsolving and hardly any other stuff?

[enochiancub]

Someone actually said "lern to ply" here? Wow, yeah it's about over.

However. What were you going for with this build?

[Zippo]

What were you going for with this build?

I'm curious about this one too.

[Junts]

Because there is no apparent reason for your particular level split.


What is the purpose of your character? In which way will he contribute to the groups success?
* Melee?
*Spellcasting?
* perhaps with additional Trap-solving?
* exclusively trapsolving and hardly any other stuff?

Uh, did you not notice the 17 cle/2 monk/1 rogue that soloed vod?

[whysper]

I'm curious about this one too.

Healer/caster with a high AC, Evasion and UMD would be the natural assumption..

OP: You probably just want to set expectations for the group when (or before) joining. Let them know you are a healer/melee/whatever, and that you can do the job without problems. Unless you of course actually are gimped, in which case /reroll.

[Quikster]

Uh, did you not notice the 17 cle/2 monk/1 rogue that soloed vod?

cleric for self healing and casting, monk for evasion and ac, rog for skills umd/intimi? That's what I would do with it prolly.

[Zippo]

Healer/caster with a high AC, Evasion and UMD would be the natural assumption..

OP: You probably just want to set expectations for the group when (or before) joining. Let them know you are a healer/melee/whatever, and that you can do the job without problems. Unless you of course actually are gimped, in which case /reroll.

I hadn't seen this build yet. I had other builds I was working on.

[HighPrior]

You are all pretty much correct. High AC, saves and evasion, UMD and a little rogue skills, and some melee DPS, without sacrificing spellcasting/healing.
I have always made it a point to let parties know what I am and are not capable of handling, if they don't like that and say something like "We really just need a dedicated healer" or something, i say "ok no worries" and leave. But this party i was in earlier invited me and before i got a word in edgewise began the flame war.

[SableShadow]

But this party i was in earlier invited me and before i got a word in edgewise began the flame war.

When I see a build I don't understand, I've learned to say to myself "Yeah, maybe an idiot...also maybe a genius."

The folks you grouped with haven't learned that yet...well, also seems like they were ****s, but people are like that sometimes.

[lanthan]

P.S. I had to squelch 3 of the party members after the barrage of /t 'Lern to ply' i received after the kick.

Given that quote I think they were doing you a favor by kicking you out of the group.

[TechNoFear]

You are all pretty much correct. High AC, saves and evasion, UMD and a little rogue skills, and some melee DPS, without sacrificing spellcasting/healing.

But you have sacrificed casting/healing, much more so at level 10 than level 20.

At ~10 level I want a healer who can raise dead, cast a 20 pt resist and has enough SP to last to the next shrine.

If the healer needs a high AC (or rogue skills or DPS) the rest of the party is not doing their job.

[SableShadow]

But you have sacrificed casting/healing, much more so at level 10 than level 20.

At ~10 level I want a healer who can raise dead, cast a 20 pt resist and has enough SP to last to the next shrine.

If the healer needs a high AC (or rogue skills or DPS) the rest of the party is not doing their job.

All of which is plenty of reason to say "Sorry, man, really need a pure level 9 cleric for rezzes; mind dropping so we can pick one up?"

[TechNoFear]

All of which is plenty of reason to say "Sorry, man, really need a pure level 9 cleric for rezzes; mind dropping so we can pick one up?"

I think the group treated the OP badly. I only responded to the comment that the OPs casting ability was not lessened by the splashes.

[Lost_Leader]

All of which is plenty of reason to say "Sorry, man, really need a pure level 9 cleric for rezzes; mind dropping so we can pick one up?"

To which a seasoned player could choose to reply... rezzes aren't a problem, I don't mind using raise dead scrolls if necessary... unless, of course, said seasoned player didn't want to make such a resource commitment.

If the group had expressed concerns about your build and what it was they were looking for, and you agreed you weren't going to be able to fill their needs, then leaving the group would have been the proper solution. The fact you were booted and then ridiculed without a chance to explain/defend/reason with the group shows that either they had been having a really rough day with poorly made multiclass characters... or they were idiot/jerks. I am leaning towards the latter. Either way though, you are probably better off not grouping with them.

[SableShadow]

To which a seasoned player could choose to reply... rezzes aren't a problem, I don't mind using raise dead scrolls if necessary... unless, of course, said seasoned player didn't want to make such a resource commitment.

Exactly.

[RATRACE931]

I'm and ass-hole anyone who knows me will contest to it . Everytime i see a multiclass i don't immediatly understand click my i think "Ah **** here we go" and then immediatly accept then and hope they prove me wrong so i can say "Dudes got a jacked build but hot **** it works!!" I agree with most here, do your best to explain the pros and cons of your build but if you're not given the chance, screw those retards and go get a better group.

[Murderface]

I was playing my 6cleric/2monk/1rogue today, and was kicked out of a PuG before we even started the mission because they thought i was gimped. Anyone else out there find this happening to them?

P.S. I had to squelch 3 of the party members after the barrage of /t 'Lern to ply' i received after the kick.

reason 1 after invited rapid fire tells sent to party leader claiming you suck/dont heal/ or only heal yourself, leading to a boot from party
reason 2 they may have been looking for someone who could cast raise dead decided u could not and didnt notice til after they allowed you in group so subsequently they kicked you.
reason 4. they might have gotten a full cleric/guildee sending a tel and decided the pure cleric was better choice then you so they kicked you
reason 5. these guys were noobs. as far as multi class i wasnt shocked at your character levels seems perfectly fine imo. so them telling you to learn how to play when you have a highly overused splash seems like they were noobs telling you something so silly

2 lvls monk for evasion/better saves and a rogue lvl for umd
i can say thats not gimp

i watch out for stuff like 7 pally 8 wiz 5 cleric. or 12 sorc 8 pally but who knows put it on a wf you might have a perfectly usable character

[RATRACE931]

i watch out for stuff like 7 pally 8 wiz 5 cleric. or 12 sorc 8 pally but who knows put it on a wf you might have a perfectly usable character

I like the 8 monk 6 wizzard 6 rouges myself :P

[Twerpp]

Uh, did you not notice the 17 cle/2 monk/1 rogue that soloed vod?

I bet that guy didnt have a join date of SEP 09.

Not sayin who was at fault here. Just sayin.