AH pricing idiocy

[z0mbyjr]

LordMond, I prefer doing something else...

Items I don't need, and are useless to me, I put up for dirt cheap...
Metamagic Items (like Abjuration Bracers, Glaciation VII Rod, etc) I vendor immediately.
Weapons that are useful? Those I sell for at least 150% of base value...
Weapons that are very, very, very useful? I sell those for as high as I can get someone to buy it.
Paralyzing/Vorpal Weapons? 500k-2mil... If there aren't any others up, someone'll eventually choose mine... and I'll get rich.
I like $$$... =D

[LordMond]

I can't see anything wrong with any of that.

I have to admit to a bit of jealously that you've figured out what is a "good" weapon and what isn't. Not a skill I can claim. I would have thought that a +2 Ghost Touch Bastard Sword of Righteousness would be a pretty good item, seeing as how the levels at which you'd use it are plumb full of undead but I've tried to sell that three times for around 1/2 to 2/3 of list value with no takers. I realize the +2 might have something to do with it though.

[z0mbyjr]

Well, bastard swords are kinda hard to sell anyway. I put up a vorpal bastard for a steal (20k plat)... No buyers. (I'm happy about that... Even when I'm not proficient, It's still useful.)
Though I have to admit, once I get another character slot, I am so rolling a monster who uses Bastard Swords... Pretty much, almost amazing DPS, but really, really cheap to get weapons.

If that was a weapon that's often used, it'd sell a lot...
EG: Khopesh, Dwarven Axe, Falchion, Greataxe, Scimitar... if you know that a weapon is used often, it'll likely sell if the effects aren't garbage.
Here's a few examples:
THF WF Barbarians often use Falchions or Greataxes... but sometimes, they'd use a Maladroit Maul on some monsters.
Dwarves? If they melee, most likely it's a greataxe, or a dwarven axe.
Drow? Mostly Rapiers...


The +2's fine though... depending on your build, some people can get away with using +1 weapons. I still use my nicked scimitars at level 14 for trash mobs... Even with PA on, I hit all the time.

Other than that... Ghost Touch is useful, but only situationally... I'm too lazy to actually swap to a pair of GT weapons, so I just use my normal ones against wraiths.

For determining an item's value, it all depends on the effects...
Something like a +3 Metalline Khopesh of Pure Good sounds useless at first... but when you realize that it's the key to bypassing most Evil Outsider DR, it's understandable why it's expensive.
Or a +1 Destruction weapon... it may only be +1, but because of the effect... it's pretty much a +5 weapon. (nerfs enemy AC by 4). Seems outrageous at first why it's higher than a +5 weapon... but with that considered, it both is effectively a +5 weapon when used, and it makes your party easier to hit the enemy.
To a monk, a +1 Paralyzing/Vorpal Handwraps is worth more than a +1 Paralyzing/Vorpal Kama. For monks, unarmed strikes are faster than TWF'ing... it saves them finding an off-hand weapon, and they get much more hits (and successful paralyzes) off with windstance.

[Josh]

I find it extremely unfair to those of us that do not have the money, to be unable to buy a decent weapon off the AH because the seller has dollar signs for eyes instead of common sense and decency.

Yes, I find it unfair that I can't buy a BMW on my salary either. I mean, shouldn't BMW give it to me?

[Salsa]

Eh, I am a little fuzzy on the numbers. If I remember correctly, there was a heavy steel shield for sale for 1000 gold on the AH(it is worth 20). I almost bought it just for amusement value.

'Oh my gosh...it's a heavy steel shield..quick buy it before someone else does!'

[Kavassa]

Iv only been playing about a month now but i can tell u AH is just worthless to use i have found it easyer to use trade chat when selling somthing good that i loot. Example being that i looted a +3 mithril full plate and instead of puting it on AH i hit the trade chat and sold it within a few hours mostly cuase i was on at a low traffic time and about the time i sold it it was near the time everyone is usualy on. My case being is if u want to sell somthing dont use AH its faster to sell using trade chat and there is no 30% AH take. However take note that selling in trade chat dont expect to sell your items for insane prices or u may just be insulted by other players LMAO.

[z0mbyjr]

Iv only been playing about a month now but i can tell u AH is just worthless to use i have found it easyer to use trade chat when selling somthing good that i loot. Example being that i looted a +3 mithril full plate and instead of puting it on AH i hit the trade chat and sold it within a few hours mostly cuase i was on at a low traffic time and about the time i sold it it was near the time everyone is usualy on. My case being is if u want to sell somthing dont use AH its faster to sell using trade chat and there is no 30% AH take. However take note that selling in trade chat dont expect to sell your items for insane prices or u may just be insulted by other players LMAO.

Well, that's mostly since Mith FP's sell really, really quick... even if someone doesn't need one, they'll likely buy it just to sell it to someone else for more.

[Carpone]

Yes, I find it unfair that I can't buy a BMW on my salary either. I mean, shouldn't BMW give it to me?

This is full of win.

My only complaint with the AH: "You cannot post any more auctions."

[Kavassa]

yea well iv sold lots of stuff now from trade chat alone yea i used AH a few times seeing as im not always on i keep at least 1 item for sale there usualy somin i know ill sell, but the fact remains i always get more sales from trade chat then i ever can from AH even if i could post more then 1 item id still sell more.

[Lleren]

yea well iv sold lots of stuff now from trade chat alone yea i used AH a few times seeing as im not always on i keep at least 1 item for sale there usualy somin i know ill sell, but the fact remains i always get more sales from trade chat then i ever can from AH even if i could post more then 1 item id still sell more.

The lovely thing about the auction house, is that its price and forget.

You can put a bagfull of items up, in a few minutes, and either get mail with plat in it, or mail with the item in over the next few days.

[CrankVulcan]

I haven't pulled any mithril anything.

lol me either but the other day +4 mith full-plate from xorian and just tem minutes later some dude wanted a +1 str. tome for his +5 mithral fullplate. I told him i would give him more but he insisted on geting a +1 str -_-.................................I sold the +5 for 985,000gp cause the buyer just wouldnt give me 7 digits it was a good day

[Veriden]

I personally only ever go to the ah any more to post items, I always post things at base price for bid, and pending it's rarity +5k gp to +15k gp. If any one was wondering who put the +1 str tome up on the auction for 50kgp that was me. I don't much care for making money, I'm sitting on 2 mil gold and at lvl 17 nothing I need to spend it on.

Personally, to me this is just a game there is no need to show how american some of us are and extortionize the gaming world, some of us have to deal with that **** every day at work. Well... -tosses two coppers in a cup- have fun guys, good luck I've said my two coppers worth...-tosses a third copper in the cup- The solution to getting ah house items down in price, increase drop rates and take out the ransacked chest rule. More people with more desired items lowers the supply and demand ergo the need to sell things at outragious prices.

[emperorling81]

This is easy enough. I have played since december on 2009 I have rebirthed once and am currently lvl 15. I have nearly 10million gold atm and I give away a **** ton of items to my guild. 90% of the time I use pawn brokers to sell trash. "Well whats trash?" anything that isn't vorp/para/banish/disrupt/smiting/imp Csing/Imp Destruction/or greater bane for armor non mithrils for heavy and mediums. for lights and nons if not twilight/deathblock/heavy fort/greater resist. Jewelry and clothes are a little more expansive. but simply I make about 200k gold per day easily. I buy stuff in AH on the regular, I got my +1 vorp DWA for 6kgold I have gotten +5lesser lightning guard mithril towershield of lesser sonic resist for 12k gold.
Simply stated. if you dont troll for deals you wont find them. I usually have my ah full of stuff about 85% of it sells, and for gobs of plat cause the items are good. Even so I under cut the closest item by comparison. By just whining about the AH you arent fixing anything, and by ignoring it your not making what you could. In my first life I sold everything I got in ah for as cheap as possible to get gold now that I got money I can find steals and resell them or I can buy good twink gear and high demand items and not worry about my piggy bank.
Use the AH people it's not a monster coming to steal your children and put you in debt its a tool you use to find what your looking for or what other people are looking for.
All that said ASYLUM FTFW. we are the best **** guild on orien.
P.S. If you see me on dont beg for handouts, but if you have a legit need of something tell me and I'll see if I can help. name is Lupey Regen
P.S.S. sorry for the long as **** post

[Kawabonga]

Allow me to give the perspective from the other side. One of the ways that my characters has survived/thrived is through wise use of the brokers and AH. I am a newb started with the same character I have now and will play till capped. I am f2p as well. At first was having money troubles and through reading these forums, as well as some other sources, came to realize how the market of DDO works. A couple of things you need to realize about the AH house is the prices you are looking at are not what that item sold for. It shows you there is 2 hours left when in reality the specific auction has already expired and the seller is reposting it for cheaper already to unload it. Those crazy buyout prices? Well they are not always meant for you to ACTUALLY buy them out (one reason cited already), but if it happens....Awesome!!!! That is somehow my fault? Listen if someone needs that item and has the money why not spend it in the AH? They will just use it to kick but somewhere and make a ton More money that they will have to spend somehow. Without the AH CRAZY prices there would be nothing to spend the millions of plat that you can accumulate in the game. And honestly I have found great deals in the AH for everything. I have to disagree with the sentiments that Mithral Breastplat isn't worth a lot of money especially for low to mid levels. With the added protection and the upped Dex bonus allowance major winner and I gladly paid 30k plat for my set of +5 mithral breastplate and I know that was a deal. So I have been on both sides and can tell you the system is as good as it gets. It mirrors a capitalist system in a nice theoretical setting where if you don't want to work for it...you can pay for it, if you have the cash. On the other hand if you are willing to put in the work (collectibles rare items) someone out there is willing to pay you well for your time. This has made my adventuring life SO much easier. Never having to worry about money makes a huge difference in my fun factor. All because I use a little bit of my time adventuring making money on the AH. Really in my mind you aren't doing something right if you are stressing about money in this game there are so many avenues to make it. Remember as well that some of the crazy prices are set because of previous bidding wars for particular items. Some prices may seem crazy but when you have seen people bidding it past that price in the past it is not so crazy.

Never heard of paragraphs?

[Kawabonga]

Since I am a newbie, I do use the AH to pawn almost every item I can as long as I can get more then a vendor would. Now level 10, I do start getting items that are more valuable and they get bought out very fast...

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Example : I put this Charismatic helm of listening (+3CHR and +3 listen) for a silly 7k pp and it was gone in a few hours.

If anyone feels like sharing their opinion, I am wondering in that case if the buyout price I put was under the actual value or If the buyer was just willing to pay a silly price for a +3 CHR item?
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In the end, it is still the old supply and demand system that rules...