Variation on Yarhovah build

[Hamern]

The idea of this build was to come as close as I could to the Yarhovah build, yet still have full trap skills. To get all the skills I want I need to have 10 skill points available for most of my levels:
Balance (2)
Concentration (1)
Disable Device (2)
Jump (1)
Search (1)
Spot (1)
Use Magic Device (2)

I leave Open Lock at the 4 points from the level 1 rogue skill surplus. I intentionally left out intimidate.

This build only shows a +1 INT tome at level 3, though you could certainly use more tomes if you have them.

On the whole, most everything will be the same as the Yarhovah build except the starting stats and the skills chosen. I also bumped the monk level down to immediately follow tempest II.

Do you guys this this build would be too gimp with the starting stats I've chosen, or will the difference in STR and AC be minor at max level in max gear? Do you think the gains in trap skills make this a worthwhile build?

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Exploiter 
Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(1 Monk \ 1 Rogue \ 18 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 260
Spell Points: 279 
BAB: 18\18\23\28\28
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 19
Will: 10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    20
Dexterity            14                    18
Constitution         14                    14
Intelligence         15                    16
Wisdom               14                    14
Charisma              8                     8

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    27.5
Bluff                -1                    -1
Concentration         4                    24
Diplomacy             3                     3
Disable Device        6                    26
Haggle                3                     3
Heal                  2                     2
Hide                  2                     4
Intimidate            2                     2
Jump                  6                    22
Listen                2                     2
Move Silently         2                     4
Open Lock             6                     8
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                2                     3
Search                6                    25.5
Spot                  6                    25
Swim                  2                     5
Tumble                3                     5
Use Magic Device      3                    22

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Human Bonus) Mobility
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I


Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense I
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion I


Level 4 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I


Level 5 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Dexterity I


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion II


Level 7 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Human Versatility III
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I


Level 8 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery III


Level 11 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II


Level 12 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion III


Level 13 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest II


Level 14 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 15 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity III


Level 16 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion IV


Level 17 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Construct
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III


Level 18 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense II


Level 19 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage IV


Level 20 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance II
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest III

[Yargore]

You butchered my build with 15 base int.

[Hamern]

You butchered my build with 15 base int.

I apologize if I offended you with this build, that was not my intent, I just wanted to try something different.

How high can I reasonably take the base INT in a melee build then if 15 is too much?

Can someone point me to another melee build that combines all these skills if my build was so far off the mark? I don't want to be a spell caster which is why I did not really consider rog/wiz. I was hoping I could pull it off and still keep Tempest III.

[78mackson]

Try the exploiter build

[Tanka]

Drop Concentration. Why bother?

Drop Jump. As a Ranger, you get it as a spell, and Jump effectively caps at 40, so just throw on a +10 item and you're golden.

Which means you can dump some Int points.

[Absolute-Omniscience]

Drop Concentration. Why bother?

So you can cast spells without quicken? With the +15 you get from Shintao necklace the concentration will be very high.

[Tanka]

So you can cast spells without quicken? With the +15 you get from Shintao necklace the concentration will be very high.

The only thing I assume you'll be casting is Ram's Might. If you're soloing and need to start hitting Heals or CSWs, that's where jumpcasting comes in.

Seriously. What spells are you casting mid-combat that couldn't be cast before combat?

[Absolute-Omniscience]

The only thing I assume you'll be casting is Ram's Might. If you're soloing and need to start hitting Heals or CSWs, that's where jumpcasting comes in.

Seriously. What spells are you casting mid-combat that couldn't be cast before combat?

CSW.

Jump-casting only takes you so far. It's quite **** impossible to execute a non-hit one when you have 20-30 orthorns on your back when solo-rushing sins / bop.

[Tanka]

CSW.

Jump-casting only takes you so far. It's quite **** impossible to execute a non-hit one when you have 20-30 orthorns on your back when solo-rushing sins / bop.

Then don't get ganked by 20-30 Orthons.

Your build is your build, but most people don't solo, and for them Concentration is useless, because they'll have a healer-type in their party.

[Absolute-Omniscience]

Then don't get ganked by 20-30 Orthons.

Your build is your build, but most people don't solo, and for them Concentration is useless, because they'll have a healer-type in their party.

Hence, why I play a Monster, and not a God. But for those who do like to solo concentration is essensial on such a build. And far surpasses the use of disable device.

[Tanka]

But for those who do like to solo concentration is essensial on such a build. And far surpasses the use of disable device.

I'll agree with that, at the very least.

[Hamern]

Meh. The more I think about it, I think I'm just trying to do too much in one spec. I enjoy playing both solo and in groups. I do most of my soloing on a pure FvS lord of blades and sometimes I really wish I had some trap skills and could open locks so that I can experience the entire dungeon I'm in.

The Yarhovah build seemed like a good place to start because it more solo-friendly, yet it had no trap skills. The Exploiter had the trap skills, yet seems to be purely a group-only type build (no concentration or metamagic feats). I was hoping to find some middle ground, but I'm just not sure it's possible.

I also realize that I am looking at end-game builds and perhaps I'm just not ready for one of those yet.