Adding the Forth kind of Reincarnation

[Angelus_dead]

There are three kinds of Reincarnation now:
1. Change stats, skills, feats, appearance.
2. Change stats, skills, feats, appearance, and 32 point builds.
3. Change stats, skills, feats, appearance, levels, 34 point builds, taller, snazzy colors, and Past Life feats.

There is a large gap between what is provided by type 2 and 3, so there is room to usefully add a 4th kind between them:
3.5: Change stats, skills, feats, appearance, 32 point builds, and levels.

That's so simple and logical I can't think of what else to say. What baffles me is why Turbine isn't offering a Reincarnation option for someone who wants to change a level or two but doesn't feel a need for 34 point builds and Past Life feats. Any ideas?

[krud]

I'd do it on at least one of my characters. I could bring my mule out of retirement. however, would the snazzy stuff and extra build points be enough to make people want to do a True Reincarnate, instead of this? Especially considering the downside of releveling and tome loss.

ps don't forget about race.

[Tolero]

There are three kinds of Reincarnation now:
1. Change stats, skills, feats, appearance.
2. Change stats, skills, feats, appearance, and 32 point builds.
3. Change stats, skills, feats, appearance, levels, 34 point builds, taller, snazzy colors, and Past Life feats.

There is a large gap between what is provided by type 2 and 3, so there is room to usefully add a 4th kind between them:
3.5: Change stats, skills, feats, appearance, 32 point builds, and levels.

That's so simple and logical I can't think of what else to say. What baffles me is why Turbine isn't offering a Reincarnation option for someone who wants to change a level or two but doesn't feel a need for 34 point builds and Past Life feats.

Yet.

[Sirea]

You forgot alignments.

[Angelus_dead]

would the snazzy stuff and extra build points be enough to make people want to do a True Reincarnate, instead of this? Especially considering the downside of releveling and tome loss.

I did not specify whether or not the forth variation would involve releveling or tome loss. That was intentionally vague so as to leave it up to however the devs might feel about it.

[Angelus_dead]

You forgot alignments.

You forgot I forgot race.

[kaelis]

Yet.

Any hint when we see reincarnation 2.0 revised on forums or lama?

[GhostNull]

There are three kinds of Reincarnation now:
1. Change stats, skills, feats, appearance.
2. Change stats, skills, feats, appearance, and 32 point builds.
3. Change stats, skills, feats, appearance, levels, 34 point builds, taller, snazzy colors, and Past Life feats.

There is a large gap between what is provided by type 2 and 3, so there is room to usefully add a 4th kind between them:
3.5: Change stats, skills, feats, appearance, 32 point builds, and levels.

That's so simple and logical I can't think of what else to say. What baffles me is why Turbine isn't offering a Reincarnation option for someone who wants to change a level or two but doesn't feel a need for 34 point builds and Past Life feats. Any ideas?

I know I have at least one character and perhaps another that would eventually use your proposed idea of a 4th reincarnation. So /signed.

Current Greater Reincarnation named to Improved Reincarnation, and your proposed idea inherits the name of Greater Reincarnation?

[Pwesiela]

Any hint when we see reincarnation 2.0 revised on forums or lama?

Heck, any hint when we'll see reincarnation 1.0 on live?

[moorewr]

You forgot I forgot race.

Heh.

You're exactly right that changing level progression and alignment is the elephant in the room. It's nice to see confirmation that they are working on more flavors of reincarnation.. so we don't have to stick it in the circular file with druids and familiars.

[SableShadow]

Great post!

[rayflo]

i think theres alot of people that would like that

[jakeelala]

I just want an alignment chaneg so I can add monk to a lvl 16 alt that has teh wrong alignment.

Make it 1000 TP's, put it in the store in the next update, and be done with it.

[Tolero]

Heck, any hint when we'll see reincarnation 1.0 on live?

So far...
- True Reincarnation is looking to be in great shape. We're in the home stretch of testing, and we'll be having one more round of True Reincarnation feedback combing on Lamannia this weekend.
- Greater/lesser/etc. reincarnation are still being heavily tested and worked on, and it is extremely likely that True Reincarnation will come before they do.

[foxx]

So far...
- True Reincarnation is looking to be in great shape. We're in the home stretch of testing, and we'll be having one more round of True Reincarnation feedback combing on Lamannia this weekend.
- Greater/lesser/etc. reincarnation are still being heavily tested and worked on, and it is extremely likely that True Reincarnation will come before they do.

SO in speculatin what will the costs be per ?

[Pwesiela]

So far...
- True Reincarnation is looking to be in great shape. We're in the home stretch of testing, and we'll be having one more round of True Reincarnation feedback combing on Lamannia this weekend.
- Greater/lesser/etc. reincarnation are still being heavily tested and worked on, and it is extremely likely that True Reincarnation will come before they do.

Glad I'm only really interested in True Re.

Just got my 28 point original Pwes up to 20 in prep for becoming a 34 pointer!

[TFPAQ]

So far...
- True Reincarnation is looking to be in great shape. We're in the home stretch of testing, and we'll be having one more round of True Reincarnation feedback combing on Lamannia this weekend.
- Greater/lesser/etc. reincarnation are still being heavily tested and worked on, and it is extremely likely that True Reincarnation will come before they do.

If someone at Turbine (i.e. you ...) were to add up all the threads/posts, etc, what is really being asked for by your customers are:

change in alignment
change in multiclassing levels
28 -> 32 point conversion.
skill/feat/attribute reallocation.

"True" reincarnation is a Turbine driven model. The paying customer base has been asking for a "respec" for years.

Instead Turbine's focus is on what more conveniently provides them with an opportunity to implement additional "grinding" in a game that apparently even Turbine believes has an insufficient amount of content.

Please give us our "respec" regardless of what you call it or where "True" reincarnation sits.

[TiberiusofTyr]

I know I have at least one character and perhaps another that would eventually use your proposed idea of a 4th reincarnation. So /signed.

Current Greater Reincarnation named to Improved Reincarnation, and your proposed idea inherits the name of Greater Reincarnation?

Could be either:

Lesser Reincarnation
Improved Reincarnation
Greater Reincarnation
True Reincarnation

or

Lesser Reincarnation
Greater Reincarnation
Superior Reincarnation
True Reincarnation

Shoot they could add two more tiers and have

Lesser Reincarnation
Improved Reincarnation
Greater Reincarnation
Superior Reincarnation
True Reincarnation

[hydra_ex]

Honestly, I've been thinking about this since I first heard of reincarnations... I had hoped Turbine would realize it on their own accord.

Best idea you've had in a long time, A_D! (and trust me, that's saying a lot, considering the esteem in which I hold A_D's opinions)

[Favis]

There is a large gap between what is provided by type 2 and 3, so there is room to usefully add a 4th kind between them:
3.5: Change stats, skills, feats, appearance, 32 point builds, and levels.

Agree should be a nice way for people that splash in 1 lvl Ranger or Paladin for use of healing wands (when the lvl cap was 10) and other lvl configuration that become "less usefull".