Quote Originally Posted by Atenhotep View Post
45 min for Wizzy, lion and jackal?

Screenshot or it didn't happen.
i no longer take the completion so you wont get a ss from me, unless they change the looting. there's usually someone who takes the completion in group though so maybe they'll post it up.

Quote Originally Posted by ddoer View Post
+1 rep for the useful advice. I'm more focus on the spell parts as quoted above.

I think energy drain is one of the most useful spell. It just similar to Shavarath quests, but the mobs are even higher in CR and we need to drain them for more times *if* we definitely need to land a spell. (that i don't suggest) And if the spell is failed to land, it will still help the melees to beat the mob down. I tend to use those "mass" spells like mass hold monster/charm/suggestion and web. By probability, the spell will land on certain % of targets.
if you *need* to land a spell, land irresistable dance - no save. i usually dance, enervate scroll, enervate, enervate scroll, fts if its one of the more dangerous mobs. otherwise just dance if theyre not ones im going to firewall.

also, ive found that mass charm and suggest are broken, or something, i dont know. 1st time in chains i was casting mass charm, but they would always break a few seconds later (much sooner than their save timer) so i switched to mass suggestion, but they would still break a few seconds (rather than 4 minutes) later.

Quote Originally Posted by ddoer View Post
FtS is supposed to be useful in OOB but is a bit costly in terms of SP. (and we can't use CK to drop Con/Fort save)
you can use ck. they are not immune to stat damage, just resistant. its not efficient though unless you have a mass group and youre cooking/slicing them up.

Quote Originally Posted by ddoer View Post
I especially like the points about back to basic. For caster, it means we use will save spell against melees and fort/reflex save spells against casters.
another good point i forgot to mention.

-know your enemies and comrades strengths and weaknesses

-act on the above in accordance with the above