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    Default Before you buy +2 INT tomes

    Note that when Update 1 is released this Wednesday, you may not get the effects of "no min level" +2 INT tomes until level 7...

    This is how it currently works on Lamannia.

    So don't go trading anything super awesome for "no min level" +2 INT tomes, because they will probably just work the same as "min level 7" +2 INT tomes after Wednesday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    Note that when Update 1 is released this Wednesday, you may not get the effects of "no min level" +2 INT tomes until level 7...

    This is how it currently works on Lamannia.

    So don't go trading anything super awesome for "no min level" +2 INT tomes, because they will probably just work the same as "min level 7" +2 INT tomes after Wednesday.
    Probably a good warning...but that seemed to actually come as a surprise to the devs that they worked differently. It could have been a bug, we won't know for sure until Wed.

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    The purpose of buying/selling them is to use them before Wednesday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samadhi View Post
    The purpose of buying/selling them is to use them before Wednesday.
    But the coding is most likely retroactively applied. In other words, if you can't eat your +2 tome and get to level 7 before Wednesday, you might be out of luck. Might they potentially strip a point of Int away from you after the Update? I doubt it...but has that been specifically tested on Lam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rimble View Post
    But the coding is most likely retroactively applied. In other words, if you can't eat your +2 tome and get to level 7 before Wednesday, you might be out of luck. Might they potentially strip a point of Int away from you after the Update? I doubt it...but has that been specifically tested on Lam?
    Hmm, I have a lvl 3 rogue who already ate an old +2 int tome. To be safe, I should probably get him to 7 before Wednesday to make sure I get the extra skill points?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galtron View Post
    Hmm, I have a lvl 3 rogue who already ate an old +2 int tome. To be safe, I should probably get him to 7 before Wednesday to make sure I get the extra skill points?
    I don't play on Lammania. I have no familiarity AT ALL with the situation. But to be super paranoid tin-foil hat safe, I would. Maybe a Lam tester could say otherwise, but they would have had to have a character in just the right situation to test this specifically. Of course if you ever Reincarnate you'll lose those skill points anyways.

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    I really doubt they will "roll back" skill/ stat games for the sub lvl 7 people as this would be a verry complicated character by character fix that seems more work then it's worth. I think you should be fine having eaten the +2 pre lvl 7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    Note that when Update 1 is released this Wednesday, you may not get the effects of "no min level" +2 INT tomes until level 7...

    This is how it currently works on Lamannia.

    So don't go trading anything super awesome for "no min level" +2 INT tomes, because they will probably just work the same as "min level 7" +2 INT tomes after Wednesday.

    but they do work for the next 48 hours, so if you have a build that needs the sp or something, and you want to powerlevel to 7 in 2 days, buying them is a great idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shamurai View Post
    I really doubt they will "roll back" skill/ stat games for the sub lvl 7 people as this would be a verry complicated character by character fix that seems more work then it's worth. I think you should be fine having eaten the +2 pre lvl 7.
    It really depends how they code it. I can envision many ways they could have chosen to do it. Maybe it doesn't perform the check until you go to level, so things seem fine and then you go from level 3 to 4 and a point of Int disappears as it gets run through the new 'if level is between 3 and 7 limit tome to +1' code they could conceivably introduce.

    I wouldn't worry about it anyways because I don't think you should build a character that fears Reincarnation. Just conform so you don't have to sweat it.

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    Default Do you have any solid information ?

    And if so where does it come from ?

    Are you sure about what you are advancing or are you just spreading hearsay and speculations ?

    Do you have a link to anything official regarding this issue ?

    A guy with rep like you wouldnt spread any rumors now would he ?

    So where did you re info come from , anything concrete ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    Note that when Update 1 is released this Wednesday, you may not get the effects of "no min level" +2 INT tomes until level 7...

    This is how it currently works on Lamannia.

    So don't go trading anything super awesome for "no min level" +2 INT tomes, because they will probably just work the same as "min level 7" +2 INT tomes after Wednesday.


    You may or you may not ? so you have nothing solid just what a rumor a feeling ?And your advising for people to trade based on what your gutt feeling do you have anything substantial to provide here ?Or just an empty shell ?

    They will probably ???? Dude you really think your opinion is worth much dont you all that forum rep got to your head cause to me it reads like that ...

    You got Nothing .I hope youll prove me wrong bring something officials about the +2 tomes or go post about your usual nonsense blabber .


    We already have a forum police .Right byz ?

    So whaddaya got here nothing right as usual like when you miss the dc of spells on your hotbarr after playing 2 characters with it for 3 + years .


    Put your toons in your sig like before cool cat like you will get more groups for sure.

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    btw it seems clear this is the inadvertant side-effect of them setting up leser and greater reincarnation to phase the tome bonuses in by level so that every time someone pulls a +3 or +4 int tome, they dont immediately do a lesser reincarnation to gain 23 skill points.

    That's certainly an issue they had to address with tomes and reincarnation, and it looks like the code carried over to normal toons by mistake, and hence their surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaxpar View Post
    You may or you may not ? so you have nothing solid just what a rumor a feeling ?And your advising for people to trade based on what your gutt feeling do you have anything substantial to provide here ?Or just an empty shell ?

    They will probably ???? Dude you really think your opinion is worth much dont you all that forum rep got to your head cause to me it reads like that ...

    You got Nothing .I hope youll prove me wrong bring something officials about the +2 tomes or go post about your usual nonsense blabber .


    We already have a forum police .Right byz ?

    So whaddaya got here nothing right as usual like when you miss the dc of spells on your hotbarr after playing 2 characters with it for 3 + years .


    Put your toons in your sig like before cool cat like you will get more groups for sure.
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    Some people brag about how fast they finished the game. I cant think of a stupider thing to brag about. Or in this game, going from level 1 to level 30 in two days, or however long it takes. I can't even begin to imagine what drives a person to think that is fun. You are ignoring all of the content and options and going for sheer speed. It is like going to a museum and bragging about how fast you made it through. Or bragging about how fast you finished a good steak.

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    Default Seeing as this is the Market

    In the spirit of this being the Market Section.

    WTT/WTS +2 Int Tome (no min lvl)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaxpar View Post
    Do you have a link to anything official regarding this issue ?
    http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...0&postcount=67

    Basically it wasn't really intended, but I suspect they won't bother to fix it

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    Well mine is preseptember. Plus they're just gonna be more expensive if they stay lvl 2 and everyone's sold theirs.

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