Thanimal's Favorite Builds

[Borror0]

Halfling Paladin 18/Monk 2 -- Hate tank (lacking a good example currently)

I'll try to put one of those together later this week; I just have a few things to take care of before (as you know).

[Thanimal]

along the lines of what you're looking for, from the same person who made roq http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=159539

Hey thanks for both links! Rocka and I discussed the Bard builds offline a bit and she changed my thinking about casting-capable Bard possibilities, which led me to link her TWF build. However, I think she and I agree that a S&B Bard is obsolete (not bad, but no longer optimal either).

I do like Valezra's Hate tank quite a bit, and as far I know it was the first published hate-only tank, so big points on that. But I think now that we've all learned more about hate tanks (though there is still a LOT more to learn), I'd do the Paladin hate tank a bit differently. I'm greatly looking forward to Borror0's take on it. (And I have to get off my butt to help him with his other project!!)

[hydra_ex]

Sorry for the late response, but here it is:
http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...11&postcount=1

The Quintessential Dwarven Ranger, updated to update 0.

I decided to keep IC: Pierce, as WoP still has its niche.

[Thanimal]

Sweet! Thanks Hydra! Linked.

Very minor note: Still says 14/2 on one of the first few lines.

[Thanimal]

Decided to make my own boneheadedly simple WF dual-Khopesh Kensai, named Obvioso, and linked to it. It's at least a placeholder until a better one comes along.

[xos420]

why is there no ranged weapon build? is the bow/xbow that obsolete endgame that no one even bothers?

[Glockduck]

Where is the Barbarian???

WF/dwarf barb 32 point build. +2 tomes to spare. THF with great axe/Great sword.

what do you experienced folks say?

Thanks in advance for your build ideas.

[Thanimal]

why is there no ranged weapon build? is the bow/xbow that obsolete endgame that no one even bothers?

Yes.

Mostly. But keep in mind this is my personal list and I don't enjoy playing OR playing with a ranged-focused character.

[Thanimal]

Where is the Barbarian???

WF/dwarf barb 32 point build. +2 tomes to spare. THF with great axe/Great sword.

what do you experienced folks say?

Thanks in advance for your build ideas.

If you look closely you'll see I specifically ruled out Barbarians in the OP. I find the core Rage mechanic to be incredibly annoying, and I can't stand the lack of defenses. And for all that you only get a fraction more DPS, and only while beating yourself up (another mechanic I don't like) with Frenzy. Nothing about the class suits me at all.

That doesn't mean it can't work for somebody who likes its play style.

[Junts]

by the way, the reason there is no 18/2 halfling pal/monk hate tank is because that isn't a very good mix for that kind of build .. I assume you listed halfling because you want ac, but you're not getting high twf dps in a threat mode and good ac on a paladin, the stats are just too thin. You could make a low ac guard-style threat build, or a defender of siberys with twf threat mode or high ac shield mode, but you're not gonna get a 75+ twf ac, threat-tanking chalice build paladin.

Both the stat points and the action points are way too thin; you can't take all the paladin dps enhancements and still get even much of the ac aura.

The kind of concept you're looking at shouldn't take more than 6 paladin levels (eg the latest hate tank that Rock posted a bit ago), or it should be a DoS .. in whichcase even a s/b version can be a fine threat tank.

[Mavren]

by the way, the reason there is no 18/2 halfling pal/monk hate tank is because that isn't a very good mix for that kind of build .. I assume you listed halfling because you want ac, but you're not getting high twf dps in a threat mode and good ac on a paladin, the stats are just too thin. You could make a low ac guard-style threat build, or a defender of siberys with twf threat mode or high ac shield mode, but you're not gonna get a 75+ twf ac, threat-tanking chalice build paladin.

Both the stat points and the action points are way too thin; you can't take all the paladin dps enhancements and still get even much of the ac aura.

The kind of concept you're looking at shouldn't take more than 6 paladin levels (eg the latest hate tank that Rock posted a bit ago), or it should be a DoS .. in whichcase even a s/b version can be a fine threat tank.

I've actually been working on a build with that setup, and I don't see why it wouldn't be able to reach that AC level with some work.

Unless my Calculations are wrong (which it's very possible they are, new to this still ) I don't see much of a problem reaching 75 ac or more with a little bit of work.

Heres from my post:

10 (10) Base AC
1 (11) Halfling Size
8 (19) Armor Bracers
3 (21) Chattering Ring
2 (23) Siberys Ring
5 (28) Protection Item
4 (32) Shroud Insight
1 (33) Monk Level 2
4 (37) Icy Raiments
1 (38) Dodge Feat
5 (43) CE
1 (44) Armor Ritual
11 (55) DEX Bonus
7 (62) WIS Bonus
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62 Beholder AC

5 (67) My Paladin Aura
1 (68) DOS III Aura
4 (72) DOS Stance
4 (76) Shield Potion
3 (79) Barkskin Potion
2 (81) Yugloth WIS and DEX Potions
----------------------------
81 Self Buffed AC

1 (82) Haste
4 (86) Bard Song
2 (88) Recitation
2 (90) Real Barkskin
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90 Party Buffed AC

4 (94) AC Boost III
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94 Short Term AC

1 (95) Monk Stance*
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95 Situational AC

*Monk Stance requires Equipping Kamas.

And as for threat, w/o PA active and CE up, the dmg will be a little low, but having zeal for some increased attack speed and constant 25% hate from Dos II, with 60% boosts, I'd imagine it could hold threat.

The build is called Shortstuff if you want to search it and look for yourself how i've set it up. He's one of my alts so is only level 4 right now, but i'll be updating it with how he's going when he's higher up there.

my 2cp.

[Eradiator]

I've been thinking about a WF with 1 level of wizard of repairs and bluffs and 19 levels of dual weilding Khophesh fighter. Is this gonna suck?

Starting

strength:18
dex:16
Con:16
Intell:8
Wis:6
Chris:6

so that will be er 130 SP i think.... just enough to repair and bluff thought the dungeons.....

i choose wizi cause i dont get a dedcution from WF and i can inscribe scrolls to get bluffs and better repairs

is that gimpy? and totally fail?


if answered will be very greatfull

[Mavren]

Hey there.
I finished posting my idea for this guy. Might be useful for your Missing Hate tank slot.
Feel free to post your thoguhts or edit it for your post here, hope it helps. I've only gotten him to 4, but he seems like he'd be fun to level some more. Link below.

Shortstuff: Halfling Hate Tank

[Thanimal]

Hey there.
I finished posting my idea for this guy. Might be useful for your Missing Hate tank slot.
Feel free to post your thoguhts or edit it for your post here, hope it helps. I've only gotten him to 4, but he seems like he'd be fun to level some more. Link below.

Shortstuff: Halfling Hate Tank

As you may have guessed, I'm almost completely out of the game at the moment. But I thank you for this link and hope folks will check it out even though I don't have time to evaluate it and possibly "endorse" it at the moment.

[Glockduck]

bump for ease to find

[Thanimal]

Added cforce's Favored Soul build. Really like it and also a very informative write-up.

[Thanimal]

Added the Holy Hammer. Gotta link to any build that beats my Hammer's previous high-water mark for DPS vs. Heavy Fort! (Also a good build in other ways.)

[Poe76]

Heya Thanimal, Worked this guy to lvl 19 so far and having a lot of fun with him,
dual weilding d-axes (min II & Lit II).

Super saves with gh I get to : Fort 39 Ref 40 Will 27

Can get Str up to 42 / +6 item, rams, rage, double madstone, titan gloves

HP are at 480 right now with max of 502 at lvl 20

Can't remember all bonuses but very close to no fail heal scrolls right now.

Love intimidate to pull aggro off of others as well can buff to around 50

Skill & enhancement allocations are close but not perfect as my memory is shot

Plus a little sneak attack goodness added in when i don't have aggro.

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.34
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Gallifar 
Level 20 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
(3 Paladin \ 3 Rogue \ 14 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 352
Spell Points: 145 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 22
Reflex: 23
Will: 10

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             16                 24                   24
Dexterity            16                 19                   22
Constitution         16                 18                   20
Intelligence          8                 10                   10
Wisdom                8                 10                   10
Charisma             12                 15                   16

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 17
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 20
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               7                    17
Bluff                 1                     3
Concentration         3                     5
Diplomacy             1                     3
Disable Device        3                    14
Haggle                1                     3
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                  3                     6
Intimidate            5                    26
Jump                  7                    11
Listen               -1                     0
Move Silently         3                     6
Open Lock             7                    10
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                     0
Search                3                    20
Spot                 -1                     0
Swim                  3                     7
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      5                    29

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge


Level 2 (Paladin)


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Selected) Mobility


Level 4 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Ranger)


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost II
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I


Level 7 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Construct


Level 8 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II


Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II


Level 10 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack II


Level 11 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I


Level 12 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I


Level 13 (Ranger)


Level 14 (Ranger)


Level 15 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I


Level 16 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Elemental
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity III


Level 17 (Ranger)


Level 18 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack II
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest II


Level 19 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage IV


Level 20 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense III

[Thanimal]

Added the Dominator -- an extremely well-presented build from newcomer Elyssaria (apologies if spelled wrong), that manages top-notch unarmed DPS against a huge variety of opponents.

[stormarcher]

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