Petition to bring back remove from group inside adventures

[maddness018]

Been in a number of groups lately with dead weight, or people that are doing more damage than good. Want you bring back the ability to boot people from the group while in the adventure. Sick of carrying people through quests. If you can't contribute then get out of my group, I'm not in the business of getting you loot. This type of occurence is especially irritating when your loot running a quest and this dead weight pulls what you need after doing nothing the entire quest. Anyone else want in on this petition?

[FluffyCalico]

Been in a number of groups lately with dead weight, or people that are doing more damage than good. Want you bring back the ability to boot people from the group while in the adventure. Sick of carrying people through quests. If you can't contribute then get out of my group, I'm not in the business of getting you loot. This type of occurence is especially irritating when your loot running a quest and this dead weight pulls what you need after doing nothing the entire quest. Anyone else want in on this petition?

The feature is here. Recall, and reform without them.

[Ciaran]

As much as I may agree, I think it'd be too easily exploited by some people and used for griefing. As I recall, this is one of the reasons they changed it in the first place.

Recall, reform sans offending person, add them to your "Friends" list, move on.

[Memnir]

Nope.

[Shaddock]

Maybe some vote system where the other members of the party voted for a kick, like in many FPS games. Can still see it being abused, but seems like a compromise of sorts.

[steelrock]

Maybe some vote system where the other members of the party voted for a kick, like in many FPS games. Can still see it being abused, but seems like a compromise of sorts.

/signed. If 5 others think you are dead weight, you are in the wrong group anyways. 5 votes accepting removal from a group initiated by the group leader is perfect. Make it so, #1.

[cdbd3rd]

As much as I may agree, I think it'd be too easily exploited by some people and used for griefing. As I recall, this is one of the reasons they changed it in the first place.

Recall, reform sans offending person, add them to your "Friends" list, move on.

That. ^^

[BLAKROC]

Been in a number of groups lately with dead weight, or people that are doing more damage than good. Want you bring back the ability to boot people from the group while in the adventure. Sick of carrying people through quests. If you can't contribute then get out of my group, I'm not in the business of getting you loot. This type of occurence is especially irritating when your loot running a quest and this dead weight pulls what you need after doing nothing the entire quest. Anyone else want in on this petition?

so looks like this post is driven by loot envy

and it's a bad idea greifing was insane when it was that way, as another suggested recall and reform, if quest is more than 50% then just finish it and then reform or better yet boot when quest is done.

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

don't agree with the OP - we used to have this around mod0 then it was removed for good reasons.

Recall and reform.

(normally don't chime in on petition threads, but this is Sarlona forums!)

Garth

[IronAngel]

I also don't agree with the OP. People would get to the end and kick somebody out just before mission completion to rob them of chest and XP. The same thing could happen with a vote to boot. Some guildies needing something could tolerate a terrible player and then all vote them out to rob them of their fair share.

Maybe if they did bring this back the booted person gets teleported to their own dungeon instance so they can complete for xp and chests, but again this would have many problems.

I really hope this is not done!

[geoffhanna]

Can we boot sadizt?

[Zenako]

Nope...too much griefing...just leave them dead somewhere.

[Zaal]

Can we boot sadizt?

Good point... He isn't sharing his Tarter Sauce.

[bandyman1]

I also don't agree with the OP. People would get to the end and kick somebody out just before mission completion to rob them of chest and XP. The same thing could happen with a vote to boot. Some guildies needing something could tolerate a terrible player and then all vote them out to rob them of their fair share.

Maybe if they did bring this back the booted person gets teleported to their own dungeon instance so they can complete for xp and chests, but again this would have many problems.

I really hope this is not done!

Not that I agree with this idea;

But how would they be robbing you of your fair share???

It's not as if they get your XP or chest loot after your booted.

[Ralmeth]

As frustrating as it can be sometimes, I do not think they should add this feature as it seems like it could be abused too easily. If someone is being a drag, generally I try to point them in the right direction, give advice on what to do, etc. so they can contribute and learn the game better...if they don't listen, still don't get it, etc, just leave their stone whereever it falls and try not to group with them again.

[Hendrik]

I shudder at the thought of a leader with this ability again.

Without reforming, there are much more fun way's to deal with "dead weight".

[Emili]

Been in a number of groups lately with dead weight, or people that are doing more damage than good. Want you bring back the ability to boot people from the group while in the adventure. Sick of carrying people through quests. If you can't contribute then get out of my group, I'm not in the business of getting you loot. This type of occurence is especially irritating when your loot running a quest and this dead weight pulls what you need after doing nothing the entire quest. Anyone else want in on this petition?

so looks like this post is driven by loot envy

and it's a bad idea greifing was insane when it was that way, as another suggested recall and reform, if quest is more than 50% then just finish it and then reform or better yet boot when quest is done.

/no.

Too many griefing opportunities to be had.

Drop them after you leave the dungeon; after all if you can't carry one or two stones through a trainwreck, what's the point in playing? CHOO CHOO

Oh, come now bloody was not that bad of functionality.

Meanwhile somewhere out in Khyberland...

(To Party): <Player:Leader> Leader <\Player> Says, 'Rogue has been gone afk what twenty minutes now?'

(To Party): You To Party <Player:Emili>Emili<\Player> Says, 'Yes, Bloody quite a long time, let me check on my brownies in the oven be back in a sec.'

Rogue has disconnected

(Party):Rogue logged off.

(To Party): <Player:Leader>Leader<\Player> Says, 'Well, let’s kick him and find another.'

(Party): Rogue has been dismissed from your group.

*** 10 seconds later ***
(To Party): You To Party <Player:Emili>Emili<\Player> Says, 'Sorry bout that, Am back.'

(To Party): <Player:Leader>Leader<\Player> Says, 'Looking for a new rogue now, kicked the other.'

(To Party): You To Party <Player:Emili>Emili<\Player> Says, 'Oh? I’ve a friend can come.'

(To Party): <Player:Leader>Leader<\Player> Says, 'Name please?'

(To Party): You To Party <Player:Emili>Emili<\Player> Says, 'Hmmm, just pass the star for a second much easier that way, be a confusing name he has.'

(Party): You are now party leader.

(Party): You invite Gornn to group.

(Party): Gornn has accepted your invite to group.

(To Party): <Player:Gornn>Gornn<\Player> Says, 'Hey Emi! '

(To Party): You To Party <Player:Emili>Emili<\Player> Says, 'Hello Gornn '

(To Party): <Player:X-Leader>X-Leader<\Player> Says, 'Hey, He’s not a rogue!'

(Party): X-Leader has been dismissed from your group.

(Party): You invite Blakroc to group.

(Party): Blakroc has accepted your invite to group.

(Party): Gornn is now party leader.

(To Party): You To Party <Player:Emili>Emili<\Player> Says, 'You two, get your asre in here quick… we’re movin’ on fast.'

(To Party): You To Party <Player:Emili>Emili<\Player> Says, 'X-Leader the Silly twit, had us waitin’ on some eejit rogue who been gone 20 minutes, probably looking for his thief tools in his cluttered garage?'

(To Party): You To Party <Player:Emili>Emili<\Player> Says, 'One at a time thru the traps now, and shall you die take res on other side please. Casters! Buff please... Rage, Haste and RAGE!'

... and so goes our adventurous friends onward to glory!

[Solmage]

don't agree with the OP - we used to have this around mod0 then it was removed for good reasons.

Recall and reform.

(normally don't chime in on petition threads, but this is Sarlona forums!)

Garth

Remind me again why I should be against this please? I never got griefed so I didn't get to experience the downsides, I just know ever since the change I've sorely missed it.

[Alavatar]

Remind me again why I should be against this please? I never got griefed so I didn't get to experience the downsides, I just know ever since the change I've sorely missed it.

While I never received the boot I have been in parties that did boot someone in the middle of a quest.

Several examples of what I have seen:

1. Party is working through the dungeon and going rather smoothly. Right after a rest shrine the leader boots one of the players from the group to make room for a guildy.

2. Party forms. One of the players was extremely new and did not know the quest and said so before the quest started. The rest of the party zergged through the quest without explaining to the new guy how to do it, so the new guy got lost and died. Party leader booted new guy before quest was over.

3. Ran the Tempest Spine. Right before opening the end chest the Party Leader booted everyone he felt did not contribute enough.

I subsequently left every one of those parties (I recalled from the TS run out of principle).

[Gornn]

Been in a number of groups lately with dead weight, or people that are doing more damage than good. Want you bring back the ability to boot people from the group while in the adventure. Sick of carrying people through quests. If you can't contribute then get out of my group, I'm not in the business of getting you loot. This type of occurence is especially irritating when your loot running a quest and this dead weight pulls what you need after doing nothing the entire quest. Anyone else want in on this petition?

/no.

Too many griefing opportunities to be had.

Drop them after you leave the dungeon; after all if you can't carry one or two stones through a trainwreck, what's the point in playing? CHOO CHOO