Petition to bring back remove from group inside adventures

[maddness018]

Been in a number of groups lately with dead weight, or people that are doing more damage than good. Want you bring back the ability to boot people from the group while in the adventure. Sick of carrying people through quests. If you can't contribute then get out of my group, I'm not in the business of getting you loot. This type of occurence is especially irritating when your loot running a quest and this dead weight pulls what you need after doing nothing the entire quest. Anyone else want in on this petition?

[FluffyCalico]

Been in a number of groups lately with dead weight, or people that are doing more damage than good. Want you bring back the ability to boot people from the group while in the adventure. Sick of carrying people through quests. If you can't contribute then get out of my group, I'm not in the business of getting you loot. This type of occurence is especially irritating when your loot running a quest and this dead weight pulls what you need after doing nothing the entire quest. Anyone else want in on this petition?

The feature is here. Recall, and reform without them.

[Ciaran]

As much as I may agree, I think it'd be too easily exploited by some people and used for griefing. As I recall, this is one of the reasons they changed it in the first place.

Recall, reform sans offending person, add them to your "Friends" list, move on.

[Memnir]

Nope.

[Shaddock]

Maybe some vote system where the other members of the party voted for a kick, like in many FPS games. Can still see it being abused, but seems like a compromise of sorts.

[BLAKROC]

Been in a number of groups lately with dead weight, or people that are doing more damage than good. Want you bring back the ability to boot people from the group while in the adventure. Sick of carrying people through quests. If you can't contribute then get out of my group, I'm not in the business of getting you loot. This type of occurence is especially irritating when your loot running a quest and this dead weight pulls what you need after doing nothing the entire quest. Anyone else want in on this petition?

so looks like this post is driven by loot envy

and it's a bad idea greifing was insane when it was that way, as another suggested recall and reform, if quest is more than 50% then just finish it and then reform or better yet boot when quest is done.

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

don't agree with the OP - we used to have this around mod0 then it was removed for good reasons.

Recall and reform.

(normally don't chime in on petition threads, but this is Sarlona forums!)

Garth

[Gornn]

Been in a number of groups lately with dead weight, or people that are doing more damage than good. Want you bring back the ability to boot people from the group while in the adventure. Sick of carrying people through quests. If you can't contribute then get out of my group, I'm not in the business of getting you loot. This type of occurence is especially irritating when your loot running a quest and this dead weight pulls what you need after doing nothing the entire quest. Anyone else want in on this petition?

/no.

Too many griefing opportunities to be had.

Drop them after you leave the dungeon; after all if you can't carry one or two stones through a trainwreck, what's the point in playing? CHOO CHOO

[IronAngel]

I also don't agree with the OP. People would get to the end and kick somebody out just before mission completion to rob them of chest and XP. The same thing could happen with a vote to boot. Some guildies needing something could tolerate a terrible player and then all vote them out to rob them of their fair share.

Maybe if they did bring this back the booted person gets teleported to their own dungeon instance so they can complete for xp and chests, but again this would have many problems.

I really hope this is not done!

[geoffhanna]

Can we boot sadizt?

[Zenako]

Nope...too much griefing...just leave them dead somewhere.

[Uska]

no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Wyrmnax]

Nope...too much griefing...just leave them dead somewhere.

Toss his stone into a lava pool.

[sirgog]

Toss his stone into a lava pool.

Always works for me.

/not signed. I've played another MMO (WoW) where party leaders can do this - it's horrible.

[Zenako]

Toss his stone into a lava pool.

That requires ME to spend time doing something, as opposed to the default of inaction on my part to save them. Although it probably does get the point across a bit better, but it is also something that might borderline on being against some interpretation of the code, so I don't do that...

[Dexxaan]

/Not Signed.... Tempted everyday...but still cannot agree.


If implemented.......What would happen to Quik????



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[Grinndal]

Besides if I can't wait at the entrance to the quest and soak up all your XP why would I even play this game? I will find my way to your end chest after the quest is complete just fine without your help. Why should you expect me to actually help with the quest? Don't be upset when my hafling pulls your docent of defiance. I really need the plat I will sell it for on the AH.

How about a boot party leader button? Then when that guy is screaming at me "Help us! Help us!" I can just boot him and go on with my business of looting the chests that are already open.

[Solmage]

don't agree with the OP - we used to have this around mod0 then it was removed for good reasons.

Recall and reform.

(normally don't chime in on petition threads, but this is Sarlona forums!)

Garth

Remind me again why I should be against this please? I never got griefed so I didn't get to experience the downsides, I just know ever since the change I've sorely missed it.

[Alavatar]

Remind me again why I should be against this please? I never got griefed so I didn't get to experience the downsides, I just know ever since the change I've sorely missed it.

While I never received the boot I have been in parties that did boot someone in the middle of a quest.

Several examples of what I have seen:

1. Party is working through the dungeon and going rather smoothly. Right after a rest shrine the leader boots one of the players from the group to make room for a guildy.

2. Party forms. One of the players was extremely new and did not know the quest and said so before the quest started. The rest of the party zergged through the quest without explaining to the new guy how to do it, so the new guy got lost and died. Party leader booted new guy before quest was over.

3. Ran the Tempest Spine. Right before opening the end chest the Party Leader booted everyone he felt did not contribute enough.

I subsequently left every one of those parties (I recalled from the TS run out of principle).

[bandyman1]

I also don't agree with the OP. People would get to the end and kick somebody out just before mission completion to rob them of chest and XP. The same thing could happen with a vote to boot. Some guildies needing something could tolerate a terrible player and then all vote them out to rob them of their fair share.

Maybe if they did bring this back the booted person gets teleported to their own dungeon instance so they can complete for xp and chests, but again this would have many problems.

I really hope this is not done!

Not that I agree with this idea;

But how would they be robbing you of your fair share???

It's not as if they get your XP or chest loot after your booted.