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    Default Turbine run pug raids

    Doesnt seem to be many public raids happening on Cannith. The only one I see when I am online is Tempest Spine. I havent had any problems getting flagged for Demon Queen or Reaver's Fate, but havent been able to actually do either raids.

    I understand people who have done them 50 times not wanting to walk noobs through, but not being able to do the raids will stop me from getting more adventure packs. Why buy an ap if you will rarely run the raid? Easy solution is for Turbine to run some public raids and make them very noob friendly. Get some interns and strap them to a chair and make them lead raids!

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    Not a good idea, how about you try to start leading some? I would join in but havent been playing on Cannith lately to much to do lately I should take a look my paladin wouldnt take long to get flagged.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Uska View Post
    Not a good idea, how about you try to start leading some? I would join in but havent been playing on Cannith lately to much to do lately I should take a look my paladin wouldnt take long to get flagged.
    Because I am a new player and have never run one before. I would have no idea what I am doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lugoman View Post
    Because I am a new player and have never run one before. I would have no idea what I am doing.
    Well I will try to help ya but have two online tests this weekend and a term paper to write but will work on getting flagged for reaver first then the dq only done the dq a couple of times but the reaver raid is really easy most the raid group would be just trying to stay alive(not really required) and I can do the puzzle about 95% just using my head.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lugoman View Post
    Because I am a new player and have never run one before. I would have no idea what I am doing.
    None of us did when the raids first came out. We had to learn them ourselves. The best way to learn it, is by doing it.

    *note*
    Not trying to sound like one of the "elite vets" here, as I am far from it. I am about as casual as you can get and still manage to see the majority of the content in 3+ yrs. Take it from someone who allowed themselves to be lead thru the raids, try it. Been here since headstart over 3 yrs ago, and I would be uncomfortable leading a couple of the raids.

    Maybe if I can get one of my characters on Cannith up there, I'll join ya and help with as much info as I know. What's your characters name? I'll look out for ya on Cannith. Not sure as to which character I would get up there, would have to purchase WF to play one of them(went from vip to premium, thats how casual I am)
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadmanet View Post
    None of us did when the raids first came out. We had to learn them ourselves. The best way to learn it, is by doing it.

    *note*
    Not trying to sound like one of the "elite vets" here, as I am far from it. I am about as casual as you can get and still manage to see the majority of the content in 3+ yrs. Take it from someone who allowed themselves to be lead thru the raids, try it. Been here since headstart over 3 yrs ago, and I would be uncomfortable leading a couple of the raids.

    Maybe if I can get one of my characters on Cannith up there, I'll join ya and help with as much info as I know. What's your characters name? I'll look out for ya on Cannith. Not sure as to which character I would get up there, would have to purchase WF to play one of them(went from vip to premium, thats how casual I am)
    Only 8th on cannith myself, and I am a warforged. Your guild name always reminds me of my guild in SWG close in name we were Death from above a bountyhunter guild


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    Quote Originally Posted by lugoman View Post
    Because I am a new player and have never run one before. I would have no idea what I am doing.
    have people forgot the thrill of exploration?
    If you want to know why...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aranticus View Post
    have people forgot the thrill of exploration?
    Yes people are by nature lazy and affraid of making themslef look like fools

    Trail and error only way to learn and muh more fun then having someone to hold your hand... i mean do you have your mother next to you when you play?

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    If you are flagged, try to find (via the forums) a group of other flagged people willing to dedicate 3-4 hours to working the raids out, you will have an absolute blast.

    The Demon Queen is the only raid you could conceivably beat first try with all first timers (until the Shroud I suppose). The others all require tricks that will take *a lot* of figuring out.
    I don't have a zerging problem.

    I'm zerging. That's YOUR problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aranticus View Post
    have people forgot the thrill of exploration?
    No, I havent. It is good fun to do quests that you havent done before. I havent had any problems finding full noob 6 man teams to do quest. The problem is finding enough people to do noob friendly raids. People want minimal effort to get in and get their loot and get out.

    I am sure there are a lot more people willing to go trial and error when a raid first comes out. You have a whole server of people willing to tough it out to get loot. Once that initial wave is done it gets harder to find the people to do a raid, much less people willing to help out the noobs.

    I really dont see the downside of having someone at Turbine run some noob friendly raids. I am not asking that they spawn the loot directly into our inventories or make things easier than normal.
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    If Turbine pays me a salary, I'll do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lugoman View Post
    No, I havent. It is good fun to do quests that you havent done before. I havent had any problems finding full noob 6 man teams to do quest. The problem is finding enough people to do noob friendly raids. People want minimal effort to get in and get their loot and get out.

    I am sure there are a lot more people willing to go trial and error when a raid first comes out. You have a whole server of people willing to tough it out to get loot. Once that initial wave is done it gets harder to find the people to do a raid, much less people willing to help out the noobs.

    I really dont see the downside of having someone at Turbine run some noob friendly raids. I am not asking that they spawn the loot directly into our inventories or make things easier than normal.
    It isn't about the lack of people running the raid, it's about the lack of people wanting to learn the raid. Go ahead put up a lfm and stat that you are a first timer. You will be surprised that many players like you will join. There will even be vets willing to hop on to guide you if they are flagged. The main thing is someone gotta start it

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    Quote Originally Posted by lugoman View Post
    Because I am a new player and have never run one before. I would have no idea what I am doing.
    Well, how do you think those raids were run the first time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redoubt View Post
    Well, how do you think those raids were run the first time?
    Probably on a beta server with people who are there specifically to be the first to solve it. So they are ready to explore/try/fail as long as it takes. Same thing when the raid first goes live. You have a whole server of people who are patient enough to get their loot. A few months goes by and the pool of people with enough patience to do an "imperfect" raid goes way down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lugoman View Post
    Because I am a new player and have never run one before. I would have no idea what I am doing.
    But canith is the server for no spoiling. If you want to be shown any of the other servers would be a better choice
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    Quote Originally Posted by lugoman View Post
    Because I am a new player and have never run one before. I would have no idea what I am doing.
    Well figure them out? No one knew them before someone did them. None of them are super hard to figure out. Oh and by the way, Can is a new server and as such has less people of the appropriate levels running around. Check out another servers LFM's one day and you will see tons of pug raids up.
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