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    Angry Rogue Dislike

    Who here is also a pure rogue, that dislikes when people do stuff like be a level 9 fighter and a level 1 rogue and your like a level 11 pure rogue, and for some **** reason they have better disable and skills then you

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    as a pure rogue you should never miss a trap disable or anything rogue related.

    here's what can help.

    make sure you ONLY have +5 thieves tools in your pack

    MAX your skills in:
    -Disable Device
    -Open Lock
    -Search
    -Spot (if you want, i don't though)

    make sure when you go to utilize a certain skill you are wearing a skill boosting item:

    if you are lvl 9, wear a +7 (i think that's the ml9 item) disable device item when trying to disable a trap.

    drink a heroism potion if you want, that's another +2 to ALL skills.

    My rogue only started with a 12 int and he does all that easy.

    If you need I can send you some +5 thieves tools to get you started, IF you are on the khyber server


    hope this helps bud. welcome to the game.
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    if they have better skills then you, youre doing something wrong, prolly not having the highest item for your level

    also thats the way dnd works
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    I like my items >.>

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    The difference is likely to be gear, but a drow or elf would have racial advantages to spot, and search skills. Search is the skill where most rogues fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverpraying View Post
    I like my items >.>
    what lvl are you currently

    what items are you using?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickpa View Post
    The difference is likely to be gear, but a drow or elf would have racial advantages to spot, and search skills. Search is the skill where most rogues fail.

    if you can find the trap, chances are you can disable it.
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    I can take out traps, Its just these noob rogues are owning me >_<

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    and why does it bother you exactly?
    its not like you get extra xp cause you did it, it doesnt matter who does traps
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    Wink

    I have a ego the size of the sun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverpraying View Post
    I can take out traps, Its just these noob rogues are owning me >_<
    i'm sorry if the noobs are doing traps, what are you

    i'm just joking, but if you answer my question about what level you are and your current items, we may be able to help you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Visty View Post
    and why does it bother you exactly?
    its not like you get extra xp cause you did it, it doesnt matter who does traps

    b/c a pure rogue should be able to do traps.. if not what is use is he to a party?

    that's meant nicely of course.. a rogue's gotta be able to do traps..

    let's figure it out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asketes View Post
    b/c a pure rogue should be able to do traps.. if not what is use is he to a party?

    that's meant nicely of course.. a rogue's gotta be able to do traps..

    let's figure it out?
    Ugh... most pure rogues I know don't even worry with traps. Leave it to the splashes... do something the splashes can't... like put out mind-numbing dps against non-fortified monsters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbryan2 View Post
    Ugh... most pure rogues I know don't even worry with traps. Leave it to the splashes... do something the splashes can't... like put out mind-numbing dps against non-fortified monsters.
    any rogue that can't do traps is a failure. it requires so little. (they don't need to focus on it, but they need to be able to do it, it's like a battle cleric that doesn't carry the heal spell, they aren't a healer, but they still should be able to do if a sh*ts storm comes.)

    my kensei acrobat rogue does traps just fine and i don't even work at it. i can do every trap in the game on elite.

    even better: my buddy's 18 barb 2 rogue can do every trap in the game, on elite, except cabal on elite. has been that way since lvl 15 for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asketes View Post
    any rogue that can't do traps is a failure. it requires so little.

    my kensei acrobat rogue does traps just fine and i don't even work at it. i can do every trap in the game on elite.

    even better: my buddy's 18 barb 2 rogue can do every trap in the game, on elite, except cabal on elite. has been that way since lvl 15 for him.
    well, he can do the traps, hes jsut ranting that the splashes can do them too

    its not like he cant do them but the others are just faster
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverpraying View Post
    I can take out traps, Its just these noob rogues are owning me >_<

    oh i guess you are right.

    haha apparently i zerged the original post.

    i thought he said that the splashes could do the traps and he was having a hard time doing them.


    rofl @ myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asketes View Post
    any rogue that can't do traps is a failure. it requires so little.

    my kensei acrobat rogue does traps just fine and i don't even work at it. i can do every trap in the game on elite.

    even better: my buddy's 18 barb 2 rogue can do every trap in the game, on elite, except cabal on elite. has been that way since lvl 15 for him.
    Wow, way to prove my point. You just showed two builds with major splashes and are talking about traps. I said leave the traps to the splashes.

    Any pure rogue that specializes in traps is a complete failure. It takes so little to be passively decent.

    Just don't sweat it. Groups that only bring you along for your trap skills are noobs anyway. Get the best gear you can, maybe spend a couple action points in trap stuff while you level up (to respec out of later) and call it good. Who cares if splashes have higher skills as long as you can get 'em in a pinch.

    And if a splash wants to get every trap... let 'em.

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    ok my items, mummy wrappings, bracers of solid fog, cloak of shadows, underwater action helm of listening, feather fall boots of springing, dex gloves of perform, ring of Resistance, ring of protection +3, blindness ward googles of the eagles, avengers gift, proof against poison belt of balance, and fragment of the silver flame

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbryan2 View Post
    Wow, way to prove my point. You just showed two builds with major splashes and are talking about traps. I said leave the traps to the splashes.

    Any pure rogue that specializes in traps is a complete failure. It takes so little to be passively decent. i'd like to see you quote me saying that rogues need to specialize in traps?I specifically said that ALL rogues should be able to do them.. rogues should NEVER specialize in traps, they are useless then as well.

    Just don't sweat it. Groups that only bring you along for your trap skills are noobs anyway. Get the best gear you can, maybe spend a couple action points in trap stuff while you level up (to respec out of later) and call it good. Who cares if splashes have higher skills as long as you can get 'em in a pinch.ya, as long as he can get them.

    And if a splash wants to get every trap... let 'em.

    lol someone hasn't had their coffee yet.

    can we agree:

    all rogue must be able to do traps, a rogue should never "just" be a trapper, a rogue should be a specialized killer who just happens to be able to do traps.
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    grab some situational Skill Items

    at level 11 you should have +10 Skill Gear

    Goggles Rings and Gloves are your most likely switches. Just create hot keys to swap items when you need them

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