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    I need better gloves and a neck less >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asketes View Post
    can we agree:

    all rogue must be able to do traps, .
    nop, we cant agree
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    Quote Originally Posted by Visty View Post
    nop, we cant agree
    You would have to work really hard for a rogue not to be able to do the vast majority of traps, But I guess if you purposely tried it you could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asketes View Post
    lol someone hasn't had their coffee yet.

    can we agree:

    all rogue must be able to do traps, a rogue should never "just" be a trapper, a rogue should be a specialized killer who just happens to be able to do traps.
    Like I said... I know plenty of rogues that don't do traps.

    I would much rather take a pure rogue that can't do traps than a rogue that can't do anything but traps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragnmoon View Post
    You would have to work really hard for a rogue not to be able to do the vast majority of traps, But I guess if you purposely tried it you could.
    starting int8 makes 7 points per lvl

    umd
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    aaww, no more skill points left for traps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Visty View Post
    starting int8 makes 7 points per lvl

    umd
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    move silent
    tumble
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    jump
    spot

    aaww, no more skill points left for traps
    What PrE would you take with that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesop View Post
    What PrE would you take with that?
    acrobat ofc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesop View Post
    What PrE would you take with that?
    Probably assassin... or acrobat.

    Ya know... the two good ones?

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    i think my character is ****ed because i choose a path, and did not make him

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbryan2 View Post
    Probably assassin... or acrobat.

    Ya know... the two good ones?
    Wouldn't Assassin II be kinda pointless with an 8 int?

    I mean Assassinate would probably never work

    as for acrobat... what do you need the Balance skill for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverpraying View Post
    i think my character is ****ed because i choose a path, and did not make him
    Your character isn't borked... You just need to have the right swappable equipment for traps and other equipment for the killing...


    Rogues are highly gear dependant... spend time with the AH

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    Default Also, maybe they know where the traps are in the quest

    if you know where the traps are, splash or pure, you have a leg up on a rogue without that knowledge.

    Don't sweat it, save your time for being the stone cold killer you need to be and if you need to grab a trap or two here and there, go for it, other than that, as was stated earlier, let the splashes get the traps and stroke their own egos :P


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesop View Post
    Wouldn't Assassin II be kinda pointless with an 8 int?

    I mean Assassinate would probably never work

    as for acrobat... what do you need the Balance skill for?

    No it wouldn't be pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesop View Post
    as for acrobat... what do you need the Balance skill for?

    you never get tripped befor lvl12?
    you never run titan?
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    Well I have a 2rog 8wiz not even with plus 1 tools and I only have plus five items I can get just as high as a pure rog. I can out do them with my own buffs. Just because your a pure rog doesn't mean your going to be better then a cross class. Most people who have been playing awhile like a few things. They want survive ability,self heal, and be able to solo. With 2rog you get evasion. You also get extra skills you can have sneak attack damage for melée and trap monkey skills can solo most quests
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beld View Post
    if you know where the traps are, splash or pure, you have a leg up on a rogue without that knowledge.

    Don't sweat it, save your time for being the stone cold killer you need to be and if you need to grab a trap or two here and there, go for it, other than that, as was stated earlier, let the splashes get the traps and stroke their own egos :P
    This actualy helps alot. My pure and nearly-pure rogues both quite happily allow multiclass characters to get the traps if that's what they want. If they're willing to make some sacrifices (and keeping trap skills up cross class can very easily be a sacrfiice) in order to get traps, more power to 'em. Calm down by finding something to stab in the kidneys.

    Then again, I'm mostly into rogues for stealth and the sneaky-hurty aspects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesop View Post
    Wouldn't Assassin II be kinda pointless with an 8 int?

    I mean Assassinate would probably never work

    as for acrobat... what do you need the Balance skill for?

    who cares about assassin 2? its a toy, but the reason to take assassin is the added on crit damage etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverpraying View Post
    Who here is also a pure rogue, that dislikes when people do stuff like be a level 9 fighter and a level 1 rogue and your like a level 11 pure rogue...
    ... and they insist on doing the traps a then blow a critical one. Really, your 9/1 build is cool, but let the pure rogue handle it.

    I also hate

    1) the timer for search and disable. Its too long. Scale it down by level?

    2) people who think they can jump the elite traps. Great. You guys made it (mostly). And now you're all aggroing everything on the other side, while the clumsy cleric and the squishy caster wait for me to disarm so we can catch up. To your stones. Just brilliant.

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    I have an acrobat rogue, 2 rangers with rogue splash and a bard with rogue splash. I really don't care who does the traps. If I'm not capped and no one else is, I'll do them. If I'm capped, well *I* have evasion so care little if we're all just running thru.

    Focus on total contributions and party synergy and don't sweat the traps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenrisulven6 View Post
    ... and they insist on doing the traps a then blow a critical one. Really, your 9/1 build is cool, but let the pure rogue handle it.
    Sometimes I wonder how two people's experiences can be so different.

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