Attack Bonus oddity

[Happosaai]

Hi guys. I'm having a really weird issue on my character when it comes to attack bonus.

A little background: Drow 2 Rogue / 2 Ranger with 21 Dex, Weapon Finesse and a +2 Rapier.

BAB: 3
Ability Modifier: 5
Bonus from Weapon: 2
Nimble set bonus: 1
Total To-Hit I should have: 11

I know when moving I get a -4 on the To-Hit total, however, while solo and with no buffs , not walking and not sneaking, my To-Hit bonus fluctuates from +6 to +22 for no discernible reason. The total does not change while just sitting there and keeping the inventory window open, but after moving, stopping and reopening the inventory window, the total is different.

Any thoughts on what might be causing this? As it is, I'm feeling a bit clueless on this one...

[Missing_Minds]

inventory window does NOT auto update. So my first suggestion is to stop using it as your tester. Use it as a bases sure.

Go run into water works adventure area and start to beat on some kobolds. Look at your dice rolls and totals there in your combat log. That will give you more accurate totals.

That +22 you are seeing could be related to the inventory window and NOT what you are actually rolling. Combat and that window do not use the same math for whatever reason.

[Happosaai]

Ahh, ok. That explains things a little... though why the totals on that window fluctuate so much is beyond me. I wonder now, why would the inventory window show that total if it's not accurate?

[Missing_Minds]

left hand not talking to the right.

[Uhtred_Stark]

I noticed this same thing while playing yesterday. It seems by attack bonus is either +8 or +13 according to the inventory window. If this is not an accurate gauge, how can you find out what it should be without manually calculating it all the time? I am pretty sure mine should be +8

STR +4, Base ATK +3, Focus +1, Longsword +1, Goggles +1, TWF -2 = +8

How does it go up to +13? Is that from say a rear attack that gets logged on the inventory window but hasn't caught up with my actual 'normal' attack bonus? Good to hear this is normal because I thought I had some ailment that wasn't showing up on the status display effecting my attack bonus.

[Wyrmnax]

I noticed this same thing while playing yesterday. It seems by attack bonus is either +8 or +13 according to the inventory window. If this is not an accurate gauge, how can you find out what it should be without manually calculating it all the time? I am pretty sure mine should be +8

STR +4, Base ATK +3, Focus +1, Longsword +1, Goggles +1, TWF -2 = +8

How does it go up to +13? Is that from say a rear attack that gets logged on the inventory window but hasn't caught up with my actual 'normal' attack bonus? Good to hear this is normal because I thought I had some ailment that wasn't showing up on the status display effecting my attack bonus.

You have a sequence of 2-4 attacks

2 attacks at BAB 0
3 at BAB 1-2
4 at BAB 3+

The first 2 attacks are done with the normal bonus - in your case, +8
the 3rd is made with a extra +5 on it - +13
the 4th is made with +10 tacked on top - + 18

[Uhtred_Stark]

Ahhhh....that clears it up. Thanks for the breakdown.

[CaptainPurge]

...wait a second.

OP says he gets a -4 when attacking while moving. I know that's true in PnP but recently read somewhere here that in DDO you do NOT get that attack penalty while moving. What's the TRUTH?

Now that I'm on that subject, what other variations are there in Attack modification? Do you get a + for higher ground? What about flank or attack from behind? Pretty sure the latter is true but haven't seen a higher ground attack bonus on DDO such as PnP.

Is there a definitive list of gameplay attack modifiers beyond the typical STR/Weapon/Size etc?

[Corebreach]

OP says he gets a -4 when attacking while moving. I know that's true in PnP but recently read somewhere here that in DDO you do NOT get that attack penalty while moving. What's the TRUTH?

Whomever you read was wrong. The -4 move penalty is here.

Now that I'm on that subject, what other variations are there in Attack modification? Do you get a + for higher ground? What about flank or attack from behind?

EDIT: possibly erroneous/incomplete answer deleted

Is there a definitive list of gameplay attack modifiers beyond the typical STR/Weapon/Size etc?

No.

[assamite]

Is there a definitive list of gameplay attack modifiers beyond the typical STR/Weapon/Size etc?

No.

Isn't there sacred D:
and luck (won't count that though it's lucky )
and competence <.<

[CaptainPurge]

Isn't there sacred D:
and luck (won't count that though it's lucky )
and competence <.<

I don't have my assamite to Engrish translator handy. What are you babbling about?

[Roziel_Longblade]

I don't have my assamite to Engrish translator handy. What are you babbling about?

He is not babbling. He is answering your question by listing some additional attack modifiers:

Sacred
Competence
Luck

on top of the ones you listed:
Enhancement (I assume you mean this when you say weapon)
Strength (or dex)
Size
Flanking

I would also add:
Insight

[Shade]

BAB: 3
Ability Modifier: 5
Bonus from Weapon: 2
Nimble set bonus: 1
Total To-Hit I should have: 11

I know when moving I get a -4 on the To-Hit total, however, while solo and with no buffs , not walking and not sneaking, my To-Hit bonus fluctuates from +6 to +22 for no discernible reason.

The +6 dunno, you should have a minimum of +7.. (11 - 4 for moving) Perhaps a debuff of some form you aren't noticing.
The +22 can be explained like this:
3rd attack in the chain gives +5
4th gives +10
So 11 + 10 = 21
You can also gain +1 for flanking a monster on the side. so +22.
Also you can get +2 for flanking a monster from behind, if you align it right this wll also grant sneak attacks regardless of whether you have agro.

[Corebreach]

You can also gain +1 for flanking a monster on the side. ...
Also ... if you align [flanking from behind] right this wll also grant sneak attacks regardless of whether you have agro.

How often do you see these things happen? I've been trying to reproduce the +1 from the side on various Korthos quest baddies and I can't get it. The +2 kicks in for the entire rear 180°.

[knightgf]

You guys are DEFINITELY forgetting 1 thing about the whole attack thing.

If you take the spring attack feat(Which requires a ludicrous ammount of feats to take before you can get it), then you will not have a -4 penalty to attack while moving. Pretty nice, eh?