Questions regarding a Khopesh Build Tempest Ranger

[Ephrin07]

Hey Everyone, I just came back to game after a long break. Tempest Rangers used to be all the rage back when I was playing (before Monks came out) Specifically Dwarven Tempests. I love khopeshs, and they seem to be the flavor of the month... So I was wondering if there is a decent way to do Ranger Tempest with a Khopesh. I picked up Human for the extra feat. Here is my build idea.

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StrTempest Khopesh
Level 20 Lawful Good Human Female
(2 Fighter / 18 Ranger)
Hit Points: 276
Spell Points: 225

BAB: 20/20/25/3030
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 15
Will: 6

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 18 25
Dexterity 15 19
Constitution 14 14
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 10 10
Charisma 8 8

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 4 15.5
Bluff -1 -1
Concentration 6 23
Diplomacy -1 -1
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle -1 -1
Heal 0 0
Hide 6 25
Intimidate -1 -1
Jump 4 7
Listen 0 17
Move Silently 6 25
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 -1
Search -1 -1
Spot 0 0
Swim 4 7
Tumble 4 6
Use Magic Device 1 10.5

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Human Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I

Level 2 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I

Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense I

Level 4 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Desert Lore I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion I

Level 5 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion II

Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II

Level 7 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Human Versatility III

Level 8 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II

Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III

Level 10 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity III

Level 11 (Ranger)

Level 12 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhanncement: Human Versatility IV
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest II

Level 13 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Dexterity I

Level 14 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage IV

Level 15 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Monstrous Humanoid
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost III

Level 16 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost IV

Level 17 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Extra Action Boost I

Level 18 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Ranger Extra Action Boost II
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest III

Level 19 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I

Level 20 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Critical
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I

Question
1)
a) Would Barbarian be a better choice for Rage and Uncanny Dodge?
b) Would a 12 Ranger, 6 Fighter, 2 Barbarian be even better than the all the choices... would go kensai for the 6 fighter as well.

2) Are my feats and enhancements in order? My hp seems really weak, but then again i'm not in any gear.

3) I like the haste boost in fighter a lot, it should help with damage out put no? Plus 10% base from Tempest, and the BAB is not effected by taking Fighter levels.

Thank you for any who give help.

[KingOfCheese]

That's a build that will work well.

Feats seem fine in terms of the ones you've chosen and the order taken.

Fighter is fine to multiclass. Might also consider rogue and/or monk. The BAB with the fighter really won't matter at high levels. Your to-hit will be plenty high whether you lose a BAB or two or not. Rogue at level one will beef up your skills (esp. UMD) and allow you to eventually use heal scrolls. Since you aren't taking feats to boost you healing ability--heal scrolls is a nice add on. Also get sneak attack damage when not having agro. And get a haste boost. Monk gives you a feat (like fighter) and boosts your AC based on WIS bonus. With your stat allocation, that might mean another 3-5 AC geared up--which makes a significant difference on a ranger since you'll be able to get into the meaningful range (high 50s to 60s).

[QuantumFX]

Feats:

- Don’t waste your time with Weapon Focus Slashing. If you’re planning on going THF at low levels or wielding a light weapon in your offhand take Toughness instead. This allows you to take the toughness feats earlier in your career. If you plan on dual wielding heavy weapons at low level then take Dodge and Mobility at level 1 and Oversized TWF at level 3.

- Power Critical is also a useless feat. Get a seeker item/weapon instead. Unlike Power Critical a Seeker item adds DPS as well as accuracy.

- Monstrous Humanoids are weak foes already. FE: Elemental or Construct will help you out more, especially at the level that you take that Favored Enemy.

Multiclass options:

- Barbarian is good for the Running Speed and the Power Attack enhancement. The rage isn’t super important but for 1 minute and 30 seconds it sure is useful in boss fights. However, to splash 1 level of Barb you need to ditch the 2nd level of fighter which gives a +1 STR enhancement.

- Rogue is good in that it can add 1d6+3 Sneak attack damage and, if you take the rogue level at level 1, you can do the trap thing without too much investment. Rogue also offers the haste boost enhancement. However, since the attack speed changes you lose out on the attack speed benefit of BaB 20. You can get get this back with madstone rage so think hard about this decision.

[EustaceTrevelyan]

I realize this is a pretty epic necro, but I was wondering whether it wouldn't be better to go dodge mobility 1st level, then khopesh at 3, then spring attack at 6 for tempest. Not sure TWF really shines till you get your attack bonus high enough, and get tempest, but as soon as you ding 6, i'd think you'd really want to be able to start carving things up.

Also, I'm doing much the same, only dwarf, so that leaves the weapon feat out, but i was wondering whether the fighter levels might be more useful just after tempest I for haste and +1 str earlier, or are the level 11 ranger goodies better earlier?

[Rydin_Dirtay]

I realize this is a pretty epic necro,

Nah thats good, it's what the search function is for

but I was wondering whether it wouldn't be better to go dodge mobility 1st level, then khopesh at 3, then spring attack at 6 for tempest.

It would be better (Imo) to take Exotic: Khopesh at 3, yes.

Not sure TWF really shines till you get your attack bonus high enough, and get tempest, but as soon as you ding 6, i'd think you'd really want to be able to start carving things up.

A lot of times on my Temp Rangers there are times where at levels 1-5 I will go Sword&Board...due to the to-hit issues...depends on the situation. You are correct in that generally your TWF really starts to shine after Tempest I, partly because of the enhancement, but also because of the fact that your ITWF feat kicks in at the same time.

Also, I'm doing much the same, only dwarf, so that leaves the weapon feat out, but i was wondering whether the fighter levels might be more useful just after tempest I for haste and +1 str earlier, or are the level 11 ranger goodies better earlier?

Fighter/Rogue Haste Boost is awesome. I use it as much as I can.

I'd probably take a fighter level at 7, right after I got Tempest, but there are a number of ways you could do it. You can front-load an extra feat that way, probably Toughness or Power Attack. The other thinking on that issue is to take it at 8 or 9 and get IC: Slash at that time.

Power Attack is less useful when your BAB is low, to where you may have trouble hitting things, especially on Elite. Toughness is not essential at those lower levels either, but it's importance rises if you are an inexperienced player that needs the hit points to cover aggro mistakes. However BOTH of those feats (PA and Toughness) are essential feats and eventually you will want both in your build.

Either way you will not be feat starved, and by Level 13-14-15 you'll really be lethal with those dual DAxe's.

[maha0201]

im working on my 18rgr / 2ftr WF XD he is now lvl 10 ah he has 240ish hp
started
18 / 12 / 18 / 10 / 6 / 6
dex is 12 coase i only need 13 to get dodge, and since im WF i can forget about high AC, so why bother i have 34 now ac with shield and prayer wepon... i got ipcs at lvl 9, and i am wealding kopeshes. build is very fun to play
i went 4 rgr / 2 ftr / 4 rgr feats toughness , kopeshes, dodge, mobility, sprin attack, ipcs at lvl 12 ill take power attack, and at lvl 15 oversized.
Havent decided on lvl 18 feat...
oh yea and i got at lvl 5 carnifix that was a lot of fun to swing with till lvl 8 and the tempest XD