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    Quote Originally Posted by Auran82 View Post
    Pouch of Jerky with +2 Luck to save and skills?
    That would rock. It would more than adequately replace the head of good fortune. I can only speculate as to what the EPIC pouch of jerky would be. (HINT: Turbine get slim jim or some such to endorse lol) Maybe it would be 5 charges or csw or 3 of heal, but judging from the whirlwind who knows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mediocresurgeon View Post
    Do epic items Bind To Character or do the Bind To Account?
    Almost assuredly character...but...if reincarnating.................
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    Quote Originally Posted by ariel7 View Post
    Almost assuredly character...but...if reincarnating.................
    ...you still have to wait until you are level 20
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    My Dq ranger might love this. She has the torq, bramble casters, beef jerky, green blade and a few other things from the DQ.

    It wil be nice to free up some room for other Future gear or rings from TOD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Junts View Post
    Yeah, cause adding statistics or something to the torc won't be insane

    or making a silver chaosblade with holy damage (PS: if adding good actually adds a damage die, a holy silver chaosblade will beat a min2 in dps)
    It says good in the list Sim Verge compiled not holy so reduce your damage estimate a bit i.e. unclear if absolute good or pure good. The big question is how much the base item increases on epic level. The base whirlwind item increased so will the chaos blade or other weapons/items increase substantially? Likely the chaos blade has only one slot because it is a one hander (eladrin states one handers generally only have 1 slot). A very good point for the chaos blade is by the time somebody has run this 20 times will that character even fight devils anymore? I should have all the gear from TOD and Shroud on my main characters because 10-20 dq raid completion will be well into mod 10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    It says good in the list Sim Verge compiled not holy so reduce your damage estimate a bit. The big question is how much the base item increases on epic level. The base whirlwind item increased so will the chaos blade or other weapons/items increase substantially? Likely the chaos blade has only one slot because it is a one hander (eladrin states one handers generally only have 1 slot). A very good point for the chaos blade is by the time somebody has run this 20 times will that character even fight devils anymore? I should have all the gear from TOD and Shroud on my main characters because 10-20 dq raid completion will be well into mod 10.


    Keep in mind all the chaosblade has to do to equal am in2 for dps is break dr .. any damage aded would jsut be a huge perk.

    With that said, do you really think you aren't going to run the hell out of tod until the cows come home for +4 tomes? really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junts View Post

    With that said, do you really think you aren't going to run the hell out of tod until the cows come home for +4 tomes? really?
    Probably not unless for something specific like divine might 4. At this point +1 more to a stat is not worth very much. If the 20th end reward is like the shroud then you may see me and others running this for tomes otherwise meh.

    Edit: I have already 3 or so elite completions, 15-20ish hard TOD completions, and 30-40ish normal TOD completions and I have seen 1 +4 tome drop so definitely not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    Probably not unless for something specific like divine might 4. At this point +1 more to a stat is not worth very much. If the 20th end reward is like the shroud then you may see me and others running this for tomes otherwise meh.

    Edit: I have already 3 or so elite completions, 15-20ish hard TOD completions, and 30-40ish normal TOD completions and I have seen 1 +4 tome drop so definitely not.

    So I'm confused, if you aren't running tower or other devil-laden content, what exactly do you plan to do? run the dreaming dark quests and epic zawabis which features a lot of loot you constantly malign?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junts View Post
    So I'm confused, if you aren't running tower or other devil-laden content, what exactly do you plan to do? run the dreaming dark quests and epic zawabis which features a lot of loot you constantly malign?
    I actually picture TOD is probably like VOD or Hound but maybe we have to do 40 runs to get the rings we want instead of 20 because of the number of rings. I am a big believer that running Vod or Hound after 20 runs on a character is a waste of time which is unlike the shroud which is more of a forever grind.

    The dreaming the dark quests for sure. I do not believe that I have maligned any of the loot in dreaming in the dark in a post although of course not all the loot will fit my characters - we will see. There is also alot of loot to be gotten for new characters of course which will undoubtedly occupy time. The zawabis quests I am unsure if from a grind perspective they will be worth it until we see a full list of the base epic items such as we saw with the Whirlwind. It will be fun playing a challenging quest (the Zawabis are hopefully) though loot or no loot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    I actually picture TOD is probably like VOD or Hound but maybe we have to do 40 runs to get the rings we want instead of 20 because of the number of rings. .
    In TOD half the time 4-5 rings drop. Lots of people are already passing rings because they already have their 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyCalico View Post
    In TOD half the time 4-5 rings drop. Lots of people are already passing rings because they already have their 2.
    Yeah.. I overstated it although the group I have been running has been snakebit. Had several hard runs where we pulled 0 rings.
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