So module 1 has respec...

[Gol]

And to change 1 class level, you have to reroll at level 1 with a steeper XP curve.

Wow... Just wow...

reference: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=206066

[Ranmaru2]

The continue to make VIP look like it's the wrong choice to be to play this game, don't they?

edit: Why put 32 point and veteran status in the store? You need to learn to play before you utilize these things! Oh wait...can't bring up this argument, please ignore

So far I don't like the look of the preview notes...

[Ron]

The continue to make VIP look like it's the wrong choice to be to play this game, don't they?

How so? What exactly is it that you guys are complaining about? There are three different options there for respecing. Two of them allow you to keep your XP and favor. What is the problem?

[Dylos_Moon]

And to change 1 class level, you have to reroll at level 1 with a steeper XP curve.

And become a 34 point build...

Seems like a fair trade off to me.

[Gol]

How so? What exactly is it that you guys are complaining about? There are three different options there for respecing. Two of them allow you to keep your XP and favor. What is the problem?

It's not respec, it's just stat redistribution.

Respec requires rerolling on a steeper xp curve.

[Gol]

And become a 34 point build...

Seems like a fair trade off to me.

I don't want a 34 point build. I don't want to lose my tomes. I don't even want to change my stats. I want to drop 1 class level.

[Ranmaru2]

How so? What exactly is it that you guys are complaining about? There are three different options there for respecing. Two of them allow you to keep your XP and favor. What is the problem?

The only comment I'll put on this one as it might turn into that other locked thread is that they're removing all sense of accomplishment from the game when all you can do is whip out a friggin credit card and HURRAY you don't have to run the content in the game anymore to unlock stuff. It's almost like those people who show you how to get XBox 360 and PS3 achievements and then you hear people brag about 100%-ing a game.

[JayDubya]

It's not respec, it's just stat redistribution.

Respec requires rerolling on a steeper xp curve.

Except that you get to keep your bound gear and you get a free feat

I'm curious, how do other games handle changing class make-up during a respec?

[KoboldKiller]

Plus unless I read it wrong you can re-create an alt with 34 points now.

[Delt]

That's pretty **** interesting...the True Res option.

[Mockduck]

I was against 32 point builds in the store until I realized that F2P players cannot achieve enough favor to unlock the builds without buying a bunch of adventure packs. It changed my mind on it.

I'm loving what I've been reading myself. It's huge. Epic, even.

[JayDubya]

The only comment I'll put on this one as it might turn into that other locked thread is that they're removing all sense of accomplishment from the game when all you can do is whip out a friggin credit card and HURRAY you don't have to run the content in the game anymore to unlock stuff. It's almost like those people who show you how to get XBox 360 and PS3 achievements and then you hear people brag about 100%-ing a game.

What you are saying is : "It removes all sense of accomplishment when I can whip out a credit card to unlock stuff"

But what you really mean, as far as I can tell, is: "It makes me annoyed that other people can whip out a credit card to unlock stuff"

Because, of course, you don't have to use a credit card to unlock those things, and then the accomplishment is quite significant (for example, I feel awesome about getting 2500 favor to get my FvS, and even though other people bought one, it does not diminish my personal sense of accomplishment)

[ArkoHighStar]

I was against 32 point builds in the store until I realized that F2P players cannot achieve enough favor to unlock the builds without buying a bunch of adventure packs. It changed my mind on it.

I'm loving what I've been reading myself. It's huge. Epic, even.

a lot of it is god 32pt at the store is fine, its not like you can tell or anything anyway

greater respec is disappointing as its only benefit is to turn a 28 pt build into a 32, meaning I pay more because my char is older, there is no real benefit

[Gol]

Except that you get to keep your bound gear and you get a free feat

I'm curious, how do other games handle changing class make-up during a respec?

What other games have multiclassing?

[Ranmaru2]

What you are saying is : "It removes all sense of accomplishment when I can whip out a credit card to unlock stuff"

But what you really mean, as far as I can tell, is: "It makes me annoyed that other people can whip out a credit card to unlock stuff"

Because, of course, you don't have to use a credit card to unlock those things, and then the accomplishment is quite significant (for example, I feel awesome about getting 2500 favor to get my FvS, and even though other people bought one, it does not diminish my personal sense of accomplishment)

like I said that's my last comment on that in here, you want to continue this, PM me.

Anyway..the respec sounds interesting indeed. I might do that for my first character or I may not...I'd have to learn more about it, like keeping +3 tomes and such...

[SableShadow]

What other games have multiclassing?

Strong point. Putting the 'modify my classes' in with the 'powergamer grind' is a little off. An intermediate option that does, say, single class levels would be a good thing.

[bobbryan2]

Strong point. Putting the 'modify my classes' in with the 'powergamer grind' is a little off. An intermediate option that does, say, single class levels would be a good thing.

Or even a near true reincarnation that does everything but the feat, size, and stat points would be nice. Just keep the standard xp, but will let you fix glaring errors.

The additional benefit for that one, would be you could do it if you somehow screw up your second reincarnated character.

[Harncw]

I don't want a 34 point build. I don't want to lose my tomes. I don't even want to change my stats. I want to drop 1 class level.

Today you have one more solution to that problem.

[Gol]

Today you have one more solution to that problem.

I realize the technicality you're presenting, but it's no consolation to the problem at hand.

[Samadhi]

I don't want a 34 point build. I don't want to lose my tomes. I don't even want to change my stats. I want to drop 1 class level.

I have one character in the same boat - it sucks - I'm witholding final judgment until I see how ugly the XP penalty is though.