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    Quote Originally Posted by Magusrex777 View Post
    Does a TWF Drow Pally want Weapon finesse if he plans on using rapiers?
    Yes, if you plan on focusing on Dex with a Ranger, Rogue, or other Dex build. But with a Pally, you want strength there.

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    I think that for pure arcanes, good gameplay outweighs the extra HP from going non-drow, whereas the same cannot be said for a lower DC on spells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rimble View Post
    Calm down OCD optimizer, everything will be okay. These people will survive with 20 less hit points, or 1 less hit/damage, or whatever. Grab a beer, smoke a bowl, and if you touch something with your left hand, make sure you touch it with your right too so you don't go insane from uneven touching of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magusrex777 View Post
    Does a TWF Drow Pally want Weapon finesse if he plans on using rapiers?
    No... Pally go strength... place dex just enough to reach GTWF requirements.
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    NO! Drow are that good...
    If you're a real DDO Player, than you have to worship Drizzit Dudden! And he's a drow! And Lolth Created Drow! And since Eberron is really a ripoff of Forgotten Realms, same rules apply here. Hail Lolth, drow are awesome, please don't hurt me.

    Okay... now that I got past the fact that I wanted to annoy people by talking about Drizzt, who's not really that great... [/comment]

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    If you are poor and new (dont have access to +2 tomes and dont have 32 point builds), Drow is the best race for any paladin that wants to do twf.

    I can start a paladin with 16 16 12 10 8 16 and at lvl 20 if i didnt got any +2 char tome i spend the last leveling point in char (i think thats better than starting 15 16 12 10 8 17 because i get to have 1 extra strength while leveling and if i get the tome i end with 1 more strength).

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    Two more builds where Drow is the optimal race:

    2 rogue/18 bard - I went warchanter and am sort of regretting it; spellsinger would have been a better choice.

    2 rogue/18 FVS - Everyone I have met hates this build until they play with me, then they love it. Sure, I'm trading DR for evasion, but you get evasion MUCH sooner than you get DR, you have plenty of SP, and if you don't plan on casting offensive spells, you don't need WIS. That also frees up enhancement points (don't take WIS or CHA enhancements) that you can spend on skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyeman View Post
    Two more builds where Drow is the optimal race:

    2 rogue/18 bard - I went warchanter and am sort of regretting it; spellsinger would have been a better choice.

    2 rogue/18 FVS - Everyone I have met hates this build until they play with me, then they love it. Sure, I'm trading DR for evasion, but you get evasion MUCH sooner than you get DR, you have plenty of SP, and if you don't plan on casting offensive spells, you don't need WIS. That also frees up enhancement points (don't take WIS or CHA enhancements) that you can spend on skills.
    Other races are better for both those builds. No offense.

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    My Drow build is now a 12 Ranger, 8 Rogue, though still working to get there. I'm a F2P "Premium" account player. I don't have 32-point builds unlocked yet, and I don't have Warforged unlocked yet either. So for my situation, Drow is better for me than other races to grind favor and unlock other things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cipher_nemo4 View Post
    My Drow build is now a 12 Ranger, 8 Rogue, though still working to get there. I'm a F2P "Premium" account player. I don't have 32-point builds unlocked yet, and I don't have Warforged unlocked yet either. So for my situation, Drow is better for me than other races to grind favor and unlock other things.
    Well yeah... except the part about how all of that is untrue. A 28 point human is better than a drow in most cases (including a ranger/rogue). A 28 point dwarf or halfling would also be better than a drow for a ranger/rogue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demoyn View Post
    Well yeah... except the part about how all of that is untrue. A 28 point human is better than a drow in most cases (including a ranger/rogue). A 28 point dwarf or halfling would also be better than a drow for a ranger/rogue.
    I don't see that at all for a dwarf with rogue/ranger? LOL. For fighter, barbarian, and ranger STR build, sure, dwarf is pretty much one of the best next to Warforged. And yes, halfling is great for rogue.

    But...

    With Elf/Drow I get enchantment/magic resistances, more ability points for DEX and INT, and a minor bonus to rapiers/short swords. And of course racial DEX enhancements down the line. I've never played a Halfling, so I'm not sure what bonuses they get that would outweigh Elf/Drow for my Ranger/Rogue with a focus on soloing and UMD.

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