Drow are not THAT good! (a rant)

[Junts]

Yes, i get the same numbers... until you factor in smites/DS then its more like ~5-10 dps differnce.

Agreed though I think its very hard to quantify smite evil dps since it's so incredibly variable.

Personally, I think the mai nargument for Khopesh is not having to spend 12 action points, which is a ton on any paladin .. I can never take all the enhancement lines i want on my paladins. My new one won't even be taking pally cha 3/human greater adapt for a cha bracket, there's too much important stuff to take.

[Monkey_Archer]

Agreed though I think its very hard to quantify smite evil dps since it's so incredibly variable.

Personally, I think the mai nargument for Khopesh is not having to spend 12 action points, which is a ton on any paladin .. I can never take all the enhancement lines i want on my paladins. My new one won't even be taking pally cha 3/human greater adapt for a cha bracket, there's too much important stuff to take.

True... in all honesty i didnt have room for both rapier attack enhancments on my pali, but the higher cha drow does have a bit of room to scrap a extra charima enhancement when points are lacking.

[Junts]

True... in all honesty i didnt have room for both rapier attack enhancments on my pali, but the higher cha drow does have a bit of room to scrap a extra charima enhancement when points are lacking.

Don't see that big a difference between 26 and 28 for my human even .. a little bigger lay is cool, but saves are no issue. I can't see needing the 30 a drow could get for any constructive purpose.

[Inspire]

Don't see that big a difference between 26 and 28 for my human even .. a little bigger lay is cool, but saves are no issue. I can't see needing the 30 a drow could get for any constructive purpose.

Heck, my Paladin has 24; 15 Base + 3 Tome and a +6 Item, no enhancements at all.

[Monkey_Archer]

Heck, my Paladin has 24; 15 Base + 3 Tome and a +6 Item, no enhancements at all.

Same.. except im poor... 17 +1 tome + 6 item

[sigtrent]

I'd add Rogue/Wizard to the list. Drow are really great for that combination from a stat and skill bonus perspective and have no real down sides to a character that generally avoids direct confrontation.

[Talon_Moonshadow]

I was going to start a similar post, except about WF.

[Talon_Moonshadow]

I was going to start a similar post, except about WF.

IMO Drow are better than people give them credit for.
But no one values the benefits of Drow and they place too much value on Con IMO.

The only race that is clearly superior to every one else is Dwarf.

If they want to make people pay to play an Uber race, they should have to pay to play a dwarf IMO.

[cipher_nemo4]

If they want to make people pay to play an Uber race, they should have to pay to play a dwarf IMO.

Good point, lol. I played a Dwarf for my original main. I since switched to a Drow Elf for my main when I unlocked the Drow with 400 total favor.

But it's nice to have the Drow locked, because it means you see less of them around. Especially on the Cannith server where everything is new. It makes my character a little more unique.

[jeenne]

Drow Sorc or Wiz. Starting 20 in casting stat, and leave Con at 6.

The real test of skill! (read: perserverence and slightly sadistic)


That said, yeah, Drow are certainly a nice bonus for low-level folk who haven't unlocked 1750. Even on some regular builds, they do work out better overall. But once you get the 32 pt builds, most other classes do tend to outshine them.

Also, one error with your example #1 - a Drow arcane or bard can start at a *mere* 18 cha/int, which puts them on par with any other class out of the gate, but it would cost them far few starting points which they could then allocate elsewhere. This may prove beneficial in certain builds.

For example (and one you missed!), a Drow Paladin can easily start with 16 or 17 CHA and barely bat an eyelash, where most other races would be hard-pressed to build a high-CHA Paladin without leaving themselves short elsewhere.

Agree with you here. Drow is a great option until one unlocks the 32 point build. And I actually love playing my drow cleric and pally .

I do have to say a Drow is not all that great with the racial enhancements though. But overall i prefer playing the Drow over the 28 point build.

[BlackRage]

This is the best post you've ever made.

+1 too funny because it is so true!

[cipher_nemo4]

***? Some of your posts are barely recognizable as English let alone comprised of carefully chosen words...
Still while I hardly think Drow are the master race, I do believe you are under selling them.

Huh? I think Thanimal's posts are completely legible. I have no problem following his train of thought as expressed in written word, nor do I see broken English. What are you smoking?

[Junts]

Necroing this thread because its so freaking true.

[Mithran]

To be sure, it runs contrary to the accepted norms of DDO rolling to play a Drow. Having said that, I've made it my specialty for a few years, now.

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...43&postcount=3

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...7&postcount=19


The numbers worked exceptionally well for Multiclass builds where high Charisma and Dexterity are needed, but I argued for four points upon TR instead of two (only to be shouted down by people who share your attitude). As it stands, they got the short end of the stick, and it's not worthwhile to TR, so I'm being pushed out of relevancy in this game.

[cipher_nemo4]

Necroing this thread because its so freaking true.

It seems anyone will find an excuse to necro threads. Unfortunately, it's still a necro. I'd support that if the thread was a guide or something useful, but this is just a flame bait wannabe thread that never really fulfilled its purpose.

[Mithran]

Agree with you here. Drow is a great option until one unlocks the 32 point build. And I actually love playing my drow cleric and pally .

I do have to say a Drow is not all that great with the racial enhancements though. But overall i prefer playing the Drow over the 28 point build.

The math simply isn't there for 32-point elves. They lose a stat point, so I guess I agree with you if you'll add a point to Elven builds.

[Dragavon]

The worst thing about drow is all the fools that thinks its cool to make a drow ranger and name him Drizzzzztss or something like that

It really makes me cringe to see one off those

[cipher_nemo4]

The worst thing about drow is all the fools that thinks its cool to make a drow ranger and name him Drizzzzztss or something like that

It really makes me cringe to see one off those

Yeah, that's lame.

I enjoy it because it's a great class for me to do the most soloing and Drows just look cool (along with Warforged of course). Dwarves look worse, but are a better race for some builds. Warforged take the cake in looking great and being a great race, but suffer a bit with the whole cure/repair thing at some points in the game.

[Magusrex777]

Does a TWF Drow Pally want Weapon finesse if he plans on using rapiers?

[hydra_ex]

Does a TWF Drow Pally want Weapon finesse if he plans on using rapiers?

And give up damage from strength? I'd say no.