Reincarnation Feedback: Lesser Reincarnation

[Oreg]

With Lesser (and Greater) Reincarnation, your tomes will gradually re-apply themselves as you increase in level, at the minimum levels tomes can be applied at.

If you ate a +3 strength tome, for instance, and then lesser reincarnated, you would get a +1 inherent bonus strength at level 3, +2 at level 7, and +3 at level 11.

So if you had previously consumed a +2 Int tome at level 1, giving you an even number, you would now receive less skill points (6-7 total?) by using this feature?

*edit* NVM i see this was addressed in another thread.

[Borror0]

My greater concern is related to lesser reincarnation requiring hearts of woods (I assume that hearts of wood will be as rare as dragonshards).

I have no problem with the two upper tier requiring a rare item considering how deeply they change your character (True) or how rarely you will need to do so in the life of a character or even your time as a player (Greater). However, Lesser is meant to fix small design mistakes or adapt to most rule changes. As a result, it's something we will do often (like changing enhancements). Thus, it should have a simple gp cost (note: this does not mean it has to be cheap).

It's trickier, for sure.

But i'm betting you crafty devs can come up with a workable solution. This really should be done, tricky or not.

I agree.

[Kistilan]

I wish a) that this was possible, and b) your avatar got taller EACH time. I want some freaking 12' tall Warforged clopping around Stormreach. Good luck seeing the dungeon around your avatar.

I personally wanted a huuuuuge dwarf because I refuse to create a small one. But a large one, named Hagard, in lieu of Harry Potter, would be fantastic. My nose would be bigger than a halflings!!!

[Monkey_Archer]

I agree.

I second that. Changing alignment would be one (if not the only) reason i would use this feature for some toons.

On the topic of tricky... applying tome as you level up at the correct minimum level looks interesting... any chance that could be applied the same way on true reincarnation?

[Borror0]

This is trickier

It's tricky!

[Xenus_Paradox]

If I have a 28-pointer and I want to upgrade to 32 points and respec, do I need to take Greater and Lesser in any particular order?

[Visty]

If I have a 28-pointer and I want to upgrade to 32 points and respec, do I need to take Greater and Lesser in any particular order?

just greater as greater is the same as lesser just that you can use 32pts instead of 28

[Barumar]

My greater concern is related to lesser reincarnation requiring hearts of woods (I assume that hearts of wood will be as rare as dragonshards).

I have no problem with the two upper tier requiring a rare item considering how deeply they change your character (True) or how rarely you will need to do so in the life of a character or even your time as a player (Greater). However, Lesser is meant to fix small design mistakes or adapt to most rule changes. As a result, it's something we will do often (like changing enhancements).

This is why I think it apropriate for every character to be given one when the mod goes live as we were when feat respecs were first added.

Rules changed, we spent points on skills that are worthless now (think of Heal on Clerics) or did not as we thought they did not matter (perform for Bards).

I am sure there are a LOT of examples...

Barumar

[Solmage]

This is trickier because of some of the alignment restrictions on classes. Like if you were readjusting the skills on your paladin and decided "hmm say now I want to be chaotic"...the universe implodes.

True Reincarnation will allow you to change your alignment though.

Hi guys,

I realize it's trickier but it should be possible to look at the existing class(es) of character X and see their alignment restrictions, add them up, and then present a list box with the illegal choices filtered-out? Needless to say, it would be an extremely welcomed effort by the player base.

[talyor]

My main concern is if people want to remove a splash character and go pure most not all (those that splash Rogue inparticular or people who took sorc to boost cleric SP) took it at lvl one and if i read this correctly you must keep your lvl 1 class choice. if anything could you make it so your choice of lvl 1 start point is any one of the current class in the toon you are changing.

[cforce]

Im disapointed that you cant change alignment

Agreed. The most pressing respec I would need is an alignment based one. Looks like that is not an option. Boo.

[kingfisher]

so just to clarify here< this allows you to respec your ability points, feats, skills, but does not allow an alignment change. do you ahve to start over at lvl 1 again and actually earn your way back to 20 with this one or do you just start over at lvl 1 and train each lvl up to 20 as you did the first time through, but without having to gain any experience to do so?

[LookingForABentoBox]

Why can't one change one's gender?

[kingfisher]

Why can't one change one's gender?

this is not switzerland man! if you wanna change your hotdog to a taco you got swtich to ddo europe

[Strakeln]

strak, for that problem, you need the true incarnation anyway
so you can change your alignment =P

Yepper, I noticed that when I had some time to read through everything more carefully. Woot!

[Solmage]

With Lesser (and Greater) Reincarnation, your tomes will gradually re-apply themselves as you increase in level, at the minimum levels tomes can be applied at.

If you ate a +3 strength tome, for instance, and then lesser reincarnated, you would get a +1 inherent bonus strength at level 3, +2 at level 7, and +3 at level 11.

Is there a way to either skip past levels you don't want (the typical example of the very sleepy wizard that took one level in sorc..), or at the very least, stop the re-leveling just before the level we don't want, and we could take it from there? And if there isn't, would you guys consider adding it? I know TR removes this, but it also kills the tomes, and frankly the +2 is only really useful in a handful of builds (oooh my barb now has 820 instead of 800 hps, or a will save of 2 instead of 1 - that was totally worth it to loose those 6 +3 tomes.. oh wait, no, it wasn't)

[NameisToad]

I'm not sure what happened, but I respecced my level 16 cleric using lesser reincarnation, mainly just to see what would happen, and I ended up a level 1 with no tomes, no equipment, and no xp. I retained my favor, but I have 0 xp, and none of the cleric trainers in stormreach will talk to me.

[404error]

I'm not sure what happened, but I respecced my level 16 cleric using lesser reincarnation, mainly just to see what would happen, and I ended up a level 1 with no tomes, no equipment, and no xp. I retained my favor, but I have 0 xp, and none of the cleric trainers in stormreach will talk to me.

Did you go to the bank? There is a special Resurrection bank.

[Dylos_Moon]

Did you go to the bank? There is a special Resurrection bank.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=206359

it seems there's a bug with lesser reincarnation potentially relating to 28 point characters.

[NameisToad]

Yes, I went to the bank. No there's no special reincarnation option with the normal bankers.