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    Default Reincarnation Feedback: Lesser Reincarnation

    Today's patch to Lamannia should have corrected issues with Lesser reincarnation. If you continue to experience issues, please report them.

    As part of our preview of the new Reincarnation system, Lesser Reincarnation is available for preview on Lamannia.

    A character that undergoes Lesser Reincarnation retains their race, gender, alignment, and the class they selected at level one. They are permitted to re-spend their ability points, change their feat selection, re-allocate skill points, spells, etc., or are free to select a path. Unlike True Reincarnation, characters will retain all favor and experience, but reincarnate with the same number of build points of the current incarnation and must train the exact level progression of the old character.

    In order to reincarnate, your character must speak with Kruz the reincarnation trainer in House Jorasco. Kruz requires a Lesser Heart of Wood to perform a reincarnation. Hearts of Wood can be purchased in the DDO Store

    NOTE: When you lesser reincarnate, your character will be placed on an airship to Stormreach at level 1 with no equipment. Speak with the NPC on the boat, who will take you through the remainder of your reincarnation process granting you the XP and reassigning your skills/feats/etc until you've reached the level you were before you lesser reincarnated. After you're finished, speak with the NPC's to arrive in the Marketplace, and head for the bank to retrieve your gear. Your gear is held for you in your bank in a new special tab that allows you to remove gear out, but not place it back in. If you decide to reincarnate the same character multiple times, be sure to clear your gear out of your reincarnation bank first.

    Let us know your feedback on Lesser Reincarnation!
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    are tomes retained with lesser? they are not with True.
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    True Resurrection requires level 20, correct?


    Is there a level req for Lesser?
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    I gotta say I love the implementations of all three.

    It gives us the ability to adjust our characters due to changes in the game ( which is what those who argued pro-respec wanted ), and the costs of True Ress addresses the concerns many raised about going form 20th level barb to 20th level caster all in one fell swoop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bandyman1 View Post
    I gotta say I love the implementations of all three.

    It gives us the ability to adjust our characters due to changes in the game ( which is what those who argued pro-respec wanted ), and the costs of True Ress addresses the concerns many raised about going form 20th level barb to 20th level caster all in one fell swoop.

    Two thumbs up Turbine Devs.

    Agreed! I was not in favor of respec's at all, but these I really like as a fair implementation.

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    Its nice to see the change, but I have to be honest with you. Most people were expecting a way to change specific class levels (i.e. swap barbarian for ranger) while maintaining the current level they have advanced to. With out a mechanism that does this-any alternative will not have the pulse of the players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tolero View Post
    As part of our preview of the new Reincarnation system, Lesser Reincarnation is available for preview on Lamannia.

    A character that undergoes Lesser Reincarnation retains their race, gender, alignment, and the class they selected at level one. They are permitted to re-spend their ability points, change their feat selection, re-allocate skill points, spells, etc., or are free to select a path. Unlike True Reincarnation, characters will retain all favor and experience, but reincarnate with the same number of build points of the current incarnation and must train the exact level progression of the old character.

    In order to reincarnate, your character must speak with Kruz the reincarnation trainer in House Jorasco. Kruz requires a Lesser Heart of Wood to perform a reincarnation. Hearts of Wood can be purchased in the DDO Store

    Let us know your feedback on Lesser Reincarnation!
    This is a little more acceptable. I'm willing to keep my point builds so long as I can re-spec. This is **** great news. good going.

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    How are tomes handled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rimble View Post
    How are tomes handled?
    Yes, this is the biggest question for me, as I feel it fair to keep them with this level of resurrection.

    My Sorcy is lvl 19, and I have one major regret. I put points into WIS and when Force of personality came out, those points are wasted - and much better placed into CON!

    This would give me that ability, as it would for my Cleric to respend all of those skill points she put into Heal that are now worthless...

    Of course if I loose my tomes, then this would NOT be someting I would see myself doing

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    Im disapointed that you cant change alignment
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    Do Drow become 32 point builds? If not since Drow now are officially no longer special can they have their proper spell resistance back?
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    This feature seems useful although like monkey_archer, I'm sad you can't change alignment .


    Also, lets say I use a +2 int tome at lvl.20. If I lesser reincarnate, will it count as if I used it at level.1?
    My drow rogue/bard REALLY wants to know :P.

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    two very important question about that whole respec thing:

    1. with the lesser and greater version, do we have to gain the xp again or stay at out level and just respec stats, skills, etc?

    2. will those tokens which the orc need only be available through the store and not be able to be looted? or on other words: got europe just shafted out of that?
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    I have a char that I made a bad multiclass choice on. I took a second lvl of Rgr, before the Ftr Kensei was announced. Anyway, I want a way to undo that class choice. Without startig over at lvl 1.

    If I understand how the reincarnations work, I cannot do that.

    Can you please add s ome option for me to do that?

    Let me reset to a lower lvl, other than lvl 1. (in my case lvl15 on my current lvl17 char)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey_Archer View Post
    Im disapointed that you cant change alignment
    This is trickier because of some of the alignment restrictions on classes. Like if you were readjusting the skills on your paladin and decided "hmm say now I want to be chaotic"...the universe implodes.

    True Reincarnation will allow you to change your alignment though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tolero View Post
    This is trickier because of some of the alignment restrictions on classes. Like if you were readjusting the skills on your paladin and decided "hmm say now I want to be chaotic"...the universe implodes.

    True Reincarnation will allow you to change your alignment though.


    you keep your classes levels though for lesser and greater so couldn't it only be allowable alignments just like the character creation process for a level.1 paladin?


    P.S my chaotic 4e paladin would like a word with you!:P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tolero View Post
    This is trickier because of some of the alignment restrictions on classes. Like if you were readjusting the skills on your paladin and decided "hmm say now I want to be chaotic"...the universe implodes.

    True Reincarnation will allow you to change your alignment though.
    yes but listen, this is super silly if you just want to be able to change only your alignment and say take those 2 levels of monk you missed out on because your old toon was created before they were in game, and you want the alignment different.

    can you add a least reincarnation that just changes your alignment?

    Or maybe a moral purge or something that lets you reprogram? PLEASE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tolero View Post
    This is trickier because of some of the alignment restrictions on classes. Like if you were readjusting the skills on your paladin and decided "hmm say now I want to be chaotic"...the universe implodes.

    True Reincarnation will allow you to change your alignment though.
    It's trickier, for sure.

    But i'm betting you crafty devs can come up with a workable solution. This really should be done, tricky or not.

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    does Greater and Lesser Reincarnation put you back at level 1?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyCalico View Post
    Do Drow become 32 point builds? If not since Drow now are officially no longer special can they have their proper spell resistance back?
    no drow do not become 32 point.
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