Reincarnation Feedback: Lesser Reincarnation

[Tolero]

Today's patch to Lamannia should have corrected issues with Lesser reincarnation. If you continue to experience issues, please report them.

As part of our preview of the new Reincarnation system, Lesser Reincarnation is available for preview on Lamannia.

A character that undergoes Lesser Reincarnation retains their race, gender, alignment, and the class they selected at level one. They are permitted to re-spend their ability points, change their feat selection, re-allocate skill points, spells, etc., or are free to select a path. Unlike True Reincarnation, characters will retain all favor and experience, but reincarnate with the same number of build points of the current incarnation and must train the exact level progression of the old character.

In order to reincarnate, your character must speak with Kruz the reincarnation trainer in House Jorasco. Kruz requires a Lesser Heart of Wood to perform a reincarnation. Hearts of Wood can be purchased in the DDO Store

NOTE: When you lesser reincarnate, your character will be placed on an airship to Stormreach at level 1 with no equipment. Speak with the NPC on the boat, who will take you through the remainder of your reincarnation process granting you the XP and reassigning your skills/feats/etc until you've reached the level you were before you lesser reincarnated. After you're finished, speak with the NPC's to arrive in the Marketplace, and head for the bank to retrieve your gear. Your gear is held for you in your bank in a new special tab that allows you to remove gear out, but not place it back in. If you decide to reincarnate the same character multiple times, be sure to clear your gear out of your reincarnation bank first.

Let us know your feedback on Lesser Reincarnation!

[Lerincho]

are tomes retained with lesser? they are not with True.

[Memnir]

True Resurrection requires level 20, correct?


Is there a level req for Lesser?

[bandyman1]

I gotta say I love the implementations of all three.

It gives us the ability to adjust our characters due to changes in the game ( which is what those who argued pro-respec wanted ), and the costs of True Ress addresses the concerns many raised about going form 20th level barb to 20th level caster all in one fell swoop.

Two thumbs up Turbine Devs.

[Hendrik]

I gotta say I love the implementations of all three.

It gives us the ability to adjust our characters due to changes in the game ( which is what those who argued pro-respec wanted ), and the costs of True Ress addresses the concerns many raised about going form 20th level barb to 20th level caster all in one fell swoop.

Two thumbs up Turbine Devs.

Agreed! I was not in favor of respec's at all, but these I really like as a fair implementation.

Well done Turbine!

[Hellllboy]

Its nice to see the change, but I have to be honest with you. Most people were expecting a way to change specific class levels (i.e. swap barbarian for ranger) while maintaining the current level they have advanced to. With out a mechanism that does this-any alternative will not have the pulse of the players.

[Eladrin]

are tomes retained with lesser? they are not with True.

With Lesser (and Greater) Reincarnation, your tomes will gradually re-apply themselves as you increase in level, at the minimum levels tomes can be applied at.

If you ate a +3 strength tome, for instance, and then lesser reincarnated, you would get a +1 inherent bonus strength at level 3, +2 at level 7, and +3 at level 11.

[RACRGUY]

With Lesser (and Greater) Reincarnation, your tomes will gradually re-apply themselves as you increase in level, at the minimum levels tomes can be applied at.

If you ate a +3 strength tome, for instance, and then lesser reincarnated, you would get a +1 inherent bonus strength at level 3, +2 at level 7, and +3 at level 11.

That is very good to know.

[Lerincho]

With Lesser (and Greater) Reincarnation, your tomes will gradually re-apply themselves as you increase in level, at the minimum levels tomes can be applied at.

If you ate a +3 strength tome, for instance, and then lesser reincarnated, you would get a +1 inherent bonus strength at level 3, +2 at level 7, and +3 at level 11.

exactly what i wanted to know, thanks eladrin.

by same example, in the event of +3 intelligence tome. at 3 you get the +1, skill points adjusted if needed for level 4, +2 at level 7 with skill points adjusted at 8th, and +3 at 11th with final adjustment at 12 of skill points?

[Blind_Skwerl]

Hmm.... what if you read +2 tomes at level 1? I have several characters that have read +2 int tomes right away. Would they retain the extra skill point per level on the way to level 7, or would that be gone?

[Visty]

Hmm.... what if you read +2 tomes at level 1? I have several characters that have read +2 int tomes right away. Would they retain the extra skill point per level on the way to level 7, or would that be gone?

that would be gone

its a matter of choice: keep the skillpoints or fix some mistakes

[TheJusticar]

With Lesser (and Greater) Reincarnation, your tomes will gradually re-apply themselves as you increase in level, at the minimum levels tomes can be applied at.

If you ate a +3 strength tome, for instance, and then lesser reincarnated, you would get a +1 inherent bonus strength at level 3, +2 at level 7, and +3 at level 11.

Excellent! Lesser re-incarnation is the way to go for sure -- and the one that makes the most sense. Greater reincarnation sounds like a grind trap with a preposterous side effect (height increase).

Godspeed.

[moorewr]

Excellent! Lesser re-incarnation is the way to go for sure -- and the one that makes the most sense. Greater reincarnation sounds like a grind trap with a preposterous side effect (height increase).

Godspeed.

You mean True Reincarnation above. Greater is just like lesser except it makes a 28pt char into a 32pt char.

Also, trust me when I say there are going to be plenty of people doing true reincarnation... if you can cap a character in two weeks as I often hear (as opposed to my nine months), what's another few days along with keeping your raid gear?

[Kistilan]

You mean True Reincarnation above. Greater is just like lesser except it makes a 28pt char into a 32pt char.

Also, trust me when I say there are going to be plenty of people doing true reincarnation... if you can cap a character in two weeks as I often hear (as opposed to my nine months), what's another few days along with keeping your raid gear?

QFT

I plan to recincarnate one character 6 times.

PS: Six is the Optimal Reincarnation for a drow -- after that you start getting 1 Attribute per Reincarnation (not worth it) on a drow (I did the math).

[Osharan_Tregarth]

Also, trust me when I say there are going to be plenty of people doing true reincarnation... if you can cap a character in two weeks as I often hear (as opposed to my nine months), what's another few days along with keeping your raid gear?

Pretty much. Although we dedicated more play time to those characters than normal, it did only take the gf and I about 2 weeks to get our fvs to level 17 where we stopped caring about leveling them. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of other people who were capped in that time frame.

I plan on using the true reincarnation on my dwarf ranger, to remake him into...


A dwarf ranger!

Maybe.. I guess. Or perhaps human. Or maybe a fighter instead. Who knows....

[TheJusticar]

You mean True Reincarnation above. Greater is just like lesser except it makes a 28pt char into a 32pt char.

Also, trust me when I say there are going to be plenty of people doing true reincarnation... if you can cap a character in two weeks as I often hear (as opposed to my nine months), what's another few days along with keeping your raid gear?

Yeah, I meant TR ... and yeah it's an option for the power level crowd. But for people like myself that take about 6 months, in average, to cap a toon (to lvl 20) lesser seems to be the no-brainer choice.

Godspeed.

[Oreg]

With Lesser (and Greater) Reincarnation, your tomes will gradually re-apply themselves as you increase in level, at the minimum levels tomes can be applied at.

If you ate a +3 strength tome, for instance, and then lesser reincarnated, you would get a +1 inherent bonus strength at level 3, +2 at level 7, and +3 at level 11.

So if you had previously consumed a +2 Int tome at level 1, giving you an even number, you would now receive less skill points (6-7 total?) by using this feature?

*edit* NVM i see this was addressed in another thread.

[Solmage]

With Lesser (and Greater) Reincarnation, your tomes will gradually re-apply themselves as you increase in level, at the minimum levels tomes can be applied at.

If you ate a +3 strength tome, for instance, and then lesser reincarnated, you would get a +1 inherent bonus strength at level 3, +2 at level 7, and +3 at level 11.

Is there a way to either skip past levels you don't want (the typical example of the very sleepy wizard that took one level in sorc..), or at the very least, stop the re-leveling just before the level we don't want, and we could take it from there? And if there isn't, would you guys consider adding it? I know TR removes this, but it also kills the tomes, and frankly the +2 is only really useful in a handful of builds (oooh my barb now has 820 instead of 800 hps, or a will save of 2 instead of 1 - that was totally worth it to loose those 6 +3 tomes.. oh wait, no, it wasn't)

[NameisToad]

I'm not sure what happened, but I respecced my level 16 cleric using lesser reincarnation, mainly just to see what would happen, and I ended up a level 1 with no tomes, no equipment, and no xp. I retained my favor, but I have 0 xp, and none of the cleric trainers in stormreach will talk to me.

[404error]

I'm not sure what happened, but I respecced my level 16 cleric using lesser reincarnation, mainly just to see what would happen, and I ended up a level 1 with no tomes, no equipment, and no xp. I retained my favor, but I have 0 xp, and none of the cleric trainers in stormreach will talk to me.

Did you go to the bank? There is a special Resurrection bank.