Reincarnation Feedback: True Reincarnation

[Tolero]

As part of our new Reincarnation system, we're previewing the True Reincarnation on Lamannia!

A true reincarnation lets the player recreate a more powerful character and change anything about them (except for the name and gender), including their class and race. Tapping into memories of their former selves, true reincarnated characters will receive additional build points to spend in character generation as well as unique bonuses in the form of access to Past Life Feats. Each True generation will also be physically larger than previous generations (you're welcome Halflings!). True reincarnation allows players to relive their journey through Stormreach. Characters will keep no experience or favor upon creation, will start at level 1, and require more experience to progress through each level. True reincarnation grants 2 bonus build points for every true reincarnation, and are always base 32 point, even if the character was initially created as a 28 point.

When you reincarnate, your character will become taller, you'll have a special status icon on your name, and you'll begin your "new life" in Stormreach with extra ability points! You may True Reincarnate a character up to two times, for a total of 36 points. You will also be given access to a "past life" feat, where influences of your previous character class can aid you in your new life/profession.

A character must be level 20 to True Reincarnate, and must speak with Kruz the reincarnation trainer in House Jorasco. Kruz requires a True Heart of Wood to perform a reincarnation. True Hearts of Wood can be purchased in the DDO Store, or earned by collecting epic tokens in the new Epic difficulty dungeons.

NOTE: True Reincarnation will start your character in the Korthos experience. Your equipment is waiting for you in your bank. You may skip the Korthos experience by speaking with Jeets or the first mate on the dock in the village.

Not level 20 yet? We will be hosting special reincarnation activities during this preview, so stay tuned for more information! If you're already able to reincarnate, please let us know your feedback on the reincarnation system!

[Dylos_Moon]

please tell me that a true reincarnated character keeps any tome bonuses and raid loot that they have.

[ArkoHighStar]

please tell me that a true reincarnated character keeps any tome bonuses and raid loot that they have.

I coudl see tomes being dropped but not raid loot

[HeavenlyCloud]

please tell me that a true reincarnated character keeps any tome bonuses and raid loot that they have.

I can tell you as soon as Llama opens

[Tolero]

please tell me that a true reincarnated character keeps any tome bonuses and raid loot that they have.

True Reincarnation characters keep their equipment (even bound to character equipment), get taller, and increase in base stat points. They do not retain favor, XP (you start over again at level 1), or bonuses from previously used ("eaten") tomes.

[rimble]

What the hell...hahahaha...

[rimble]

They do not retain favor, XP (you start over again at level 1), or bonuses from previously used ("eaten") tomes.

Bad decision. Either have tomes applied at the new appropriate min levels, or stick some appropriate bound to character versions of them in their mail or something. Guess I'd have to see how useful these influences from past careers thing are, because that's one hell of an expensive loss for many of us.

[SimVerg]

How will True Reincarnate effect drow? Will they gain 2 points becoming 30 point builds, 4 becoming 32 point builds or 6 becoming 34 point builds?

edit: And if you want to claim that drow already are 32 point builds due to their racial +2's, does that mean that Warforged are currently 26 or 30 point builds?

[Lerincho]

so if a capped 28, does this, they become 32 points AND gain 2 more points?


so someone could eventually have a 40 or 50 point character?

[kaelis]

True Reincarnation characters keep their equipment (even bound to character equipment), get taller, and increase in base stat points. They do not retain favor, XP (you start over again at level 1), or bonuses from previously used ("eaten") tomes.

So any tomes we have on our characters we would have to reacquire (say +3/+4's?) or would we gain them back automatically at the correct level (doubting it but one can hope)

[Dylos_Moon]

True Reincarnation characters keep their equipment (even bound to character equipment), get taller, and increase in base stat points. They do not retain favor, XP (you start over again at level 1), or bonuses from previously used ("eaten") tomes.

Ok, but if I have my 1750 favor tome and have not yet used it when I reincarnate, or I have a bound to character tome that I looted from a raid chest but have not yet used, I get to keep those?

So then does that mean that I could get a character to 1750 favor 3 times for 3 +2 favor tomes, and not use any of them until they were a 36 point character if I wanted to?

Doesn't sound fair to me that you can keep unused bound to character tomes, but cannot keep used ones.

[SimVerg]

Ok, but if I have my 1750 favor tome and have not yet used it when I reincarnate, or I have a bound to character tome that I looted from a raid chest but have not yet used, I get to keep those?

So then does that mean that I could get a character to 1750 favor 3 times for 3 +2 favor tomes, and not use any of them until they were a 36 point character if I wanted to?

Doesn't sound fair to me that you can keep unused bound to character tomes, but cannot keep used ones.

And there lies the solution to the tome problem for players.

1. Farm for +4's, don't eat them
2. True reincarnate twice.
3. ????
4. profit.

[Jonny_D]

I Understand that favor would have to be re-run (makes sense to me) but what about pack slots and Banks slots. If we get to keep our gear where do we keep it? Also if say I receive an end reward for 20 completions of a raid, and I dont consume the tome, Will I be able keep the tome? And use it on my reincarnated characters?

[Visty]

ahhh, wrong thread

[Gol]

You know you guys don't have to True Reincarnate, right? This option is most likely something for the more hardcore among you. Built up your character, ran all the raids, but still want to be bigger and badder? Now you've got it!

I don't want to be bigger and badder. I want to fix a single class selection I made during MODULE 3 when the level cap was 12 and we only have 4 enhancements period, nevermind Prestige Enhancements.

Check the sig.

A 15/2/1 Ranger. What I wouldn't give to drop the "/1".
A 14/2/1 Bard. Again, the "/1".
A 15/1/1 Cleric. Not as bad, but I really want to drop one of the "/1"s.

And your solution is "Shut the **** up and reroll" if I want to fix it? That's not respec. That's forcing me into a grind if I want to respec.

[Quanefel]

I Understand that favor would have to be re-run (makes sense to me) but what about pack slots and Banks slots. If we get to keep our gear where do we keep it? Also if say I receive an end reward for 20 completions of a raid, and I dont consume the tome, Will I be able keep the tome? And use it on my reincarnated characters?

Well, I think we are now able to buy extra bank slots so.....we can keep every single peice of raid gear or tome from here on out. Why let others roll for it when we might want to use it after a respec?

[ArkoHighStar]

I Understand that favor would have to be re-run (makes sense to me) but what about pack slots and Banks slots. If we get to keep our gear where do we keep it? Also if say I receive an end reward for 20 completions of a raid, and I dont consume the tome, Will I be able keep the tome? And use it on my reincarnated characters?

tomes are tomes like any other piece of inventory so I imagine yes, I imagine items in the old slots will go in to some sort of overflow just like things do now.

The loss of tomes is really going to create another problem, you will rarel if ever see another +3/4 tome up for roll again, because there is no incentive to do so anymore

[transtemporal]

Heh... the character builders gonna get a whole lot more complicated...

[Monsoon28]

I'm fine with losing +1 or +2 tomes, But Raid tomes?!

It's hard enough getting +3 tomes as it is, and the rare person lucky enough to pull a +4 is really gonna get screwed over if they want to start over with True Reincarnation.

But that's my 2cp's worth.

[Junts]

How about a small change that permits reincarnated characters to open elite even if they've never done hard?