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    Community Member kartos's Avatar
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    Default how is this bard?

    hey all i recently rolled a bard and i have made a build for it my goals r:
    1)to be good CC char
    2)to have a nice melee DPS end game while using 1h weps and no TWF
    3)to be a decent buffer and healer
    4)to stay a pure bard

    so is the following build will be able to accomplish that?
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    Level 20 Neutral Good Human Male
    (20 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 212
    Spell Points: 1007 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 8
    Reflex: 11
    Will: 20
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Stats          Modified Stats
    Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             16                    18
    Dexterity             8                     8
    Constitution         14                    14
    Intelligence         10                    10
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma             16                    26
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               3                    10
    Bluff                 3                     8
    Concentration         6                    26
    Diplomacy             7                    33
    Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                3                    31
    Heal                 -1                    -1
    Hide                 -1                    -1
    Intimidate            3                     8
    Jump                  7                    11
    Listen               -1                    21
    Move Silently        -1                    -1
    Open Lock            n/a                   n/a
    Perform               7                    38
    Repair                0                     0
    Search                0                     0
    Spot                 -1                    -1
    Swim                  3                     6
    Tumble                3                     5
    Use Magic Device      7                    31
    
    Level 1 (Bard)
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Mental Toughness
    Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Perform
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
    Enhancement: Bard Perform I
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Bard Concentration I
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Perform II
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Bard Virtuoso I
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma III
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Music of the Dead
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song I
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Music of Makers
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Charisma I
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Critical
    Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Strength I
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song IV
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song III
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song II
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Muscial Prodigy
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song III
    Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery I
    thx in advance for any help

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    You may get some head in the forums over Virtuoso, its a very uncommon choice. Spellsinger and Warchanter tend to be more popular, however the nice thing about enhancements if you can play it to cap if you want and then reset to see if you like it better than something else or not

    You've proposed a nice balanced build, it won't be top at anything, but it will contribute in the areas you are looking for. I started my bard with a similar balanced build and she is a lot of fun to play. She has been a Virtuoso, a Spellsinger, and a Warchanter. In the end WC most matched my playstyle.

    You haven't listed skills. On a bard maximizing UMD is a must (REALLY handy skill). Haggle is very helpful, especially for a new player as a money maker/saver.

    1 Handed weapons are a mistake after the early levels. Early on a bard in medium armor and carrying a shield has a reasonable AC. At higher levels your armor won't do you any good at all as you probably won't hit decent AC (somewhere around L10-12/GiantHold). At that point you want to switch to two handed weapons. You don't need the feats, just grab one and start swinging and you'll do more damage than you would have with a 1 hander without sacraficing anything.
    Last edited by Lorien_the_First_One; 10-04-2009 at 09:07 AM.

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    thanks for the relly helpful reply about the skills there mention at end game ill have 31 UMD 38 PREFORM max CONCRETION and 20 ranks in haggle and about 2h weapons im really not intending to wear a shield but i hate 2h weps so i prefer nnot to use then unless i have no other chice

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    Quote Originally Posted by kartos View Post
    thanks for the relly helpful reply about the skills there mention at end game ill have 31 UMD 38 PREFORM max CONCRETION and 20 ranks in haggle and about 2h weapons im really not intending to wear a shield but i hate 2h weps so i prefer nnot to use then unless i have no other chice
    If you are using a 1 handed weapon (not 2WF or 2HF) there isn't really a reason to not put a mithreal light shield in that spot (+AC with no Spell Failure).

    Also don't forget the Masters Touch spell will let you use a lot more 2 Hand weapons.

    I am guessing you can find a better feat then power critical unless it's required for something I don't know about..

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