A Solid Warforged Sorcerer Build

[mediocresurgeon]

It is a bit aged, but I had youtube footage of this fight that should show how it is done in the method Junts describes.

Beautiful job! Thank you for sharing that.

[Shade]

It would be useful to know what the reflex and strength saves are in this quest on normal hard and elite. People can toss anecdotal comments all day, but a few numbers easily clears up the discussion.

I can very safely say nothings strength score scales much in the new content. If something is webbed - it's chance of breaking out is very low on my web. As well as being able to trip everything very often on my Barbarians, regardless of difficulty, another str save.

Will saves however do scale up very obviously.

[mediocresurgeon]

Updated.

-Changed greensteel recipe for Goggles.
-Changed greensteel recipe for Bracers.
-Removed Jump as a trained skill.
-Increased ranks in Intimidate.

[mediocresurgeon]

Updated.

-Changed layout.
-Added skill totals.
-Added hyperlinks for spells and feats.
-Added Enhancements section.

Does anyone know how to calculate the spell points for a sorcerer? I would like to include the final SP of the build in the stats.

[Aspenor]

Updated.

-Changed layout.
-Added skill totals.
-Added hyperlinks for spells and feats.
-Added Enhancements section.

Does anyone know how to calculate the spell points for a sorcerer? I would like to include the final SP of the build in the stats.

Theres a table on Borr's wiki.

[mediocresurgeon]

Theres a table on Borr's wiki.

Thanks!

[mediocresurgeon]

Updated.

-Added Spell Point section.
-Added more hyperlinks.
-Clarified saving throws.
-Slight modification to page layout.




When I first posted this build, there were lots of comments on how it could be better. Since then, many modifications in the form of equipment, feats, and spells have been made. As this build currently stands, is it "solid?" Is there anything else which could be added or modified to make it better than it currently is?

Or is this the Paragon Warforged Sorcerer?

[mediocresurgeon]

Updated.

New introduction and build explanation added.

[fugazi70]

Do you have a 28 point build? This one requires 32

[MrCow]

Do you have a 28 point build? This one requires 32

Just dump 4 of the build points that went into CON. This would leave you with a starting stat spread of 8 STR/8 DEX/16 CON/14 INT/6 WIS/16 CHA.

[mediocresurgeon]

Just dump 4 of the build points that went into CON. This would leave you with a starting stat spread of 8 STR/8 DEX/16 CON/14 INT/6 WIS/16 CHA.

Excellent suggestion. I think I will add a 28-point build section.

Edit:
Updated.

[mediocresurgeon]

Updated.

Modified intro.

[poctech]

I'm a relatively new player and am interested in trying this build..

However I'm confused by what is meant by "ranks" when it comes to skills.

For instance, when I'm rolling the character which skills do I assign points to at level one? ..and then at level two?

"Balance 11 ranks" and "Intimidate 11 ranks" doesn't make any sense to me (from my limited knowledge of the game).

Thanks for any help!


RE:

Skills:
Balance 11 ranks
-Total Balance: +20 (+4 Greater Heroism, +3 dexterity, +2 exceptional)
Concentration 23 ranks
-Total Concentration (32-Point): +46 (+4 Greater Heroism, +9 constitution, +10 competence, +3 exceptional)
Intimidate 11 ranks
-Total Intimidate: +49 (+4 Greater Heroism, +14 charisma, +15 competence, +5 exceptional)
Jump 0 ranks
-Total Jump: +39 (+4 Greater Heroism, +30 Jump, +4 strength, +1 exceptional)
Tumble 1 rank
-Total Tumble: +10 (+4 Greater Heroism, +3 dexterity, +2 exceptional)
Use Magic Device 11 ranks
-Total Use Magic Device: +37 (+4 Greater Heroism, +14 charisma, +3 competence, +5 exceptional)

[mediocresurgeon]

However I'm confused by what is meant by "ranks" when it comes to skills.

For instance, when I'm rolling the character which skills do I assign points to at level one? ..and then at level two?

"Balance 11 ranks" and "Intimidate 11 ranks" doesn't make any sense to me (from my limited knowledge of the game).

Thanks for any help!

At character creation, you have a certain number of skill points to spend on skills. For a warforged sorcerer, this is 8 skill points, plus 4 more skill points per 2 points of intelligence above 10 (example: with 14 intelligence, a level 1 sorcerer would have 16 skill points to spend at level 1). Each additional sorcerer level gives you 2 more skill points, plus 1 more skill point for each 2 points of intelligence beyond 10 (14 intelligence would give you a total of 4 skill points to spend each level).

Skill points are used to purcahse Ranks in skills. Each rank gives you a +1 bonus to that skill. For class skills (such as Concentration, for a sorcerer) each rank costs 1 skill point. For cross-class skills (such as Use Magic Device, Balance, and Intimidate for a sorcerer) each rank costs 2 skill points. The maximum ranks you can have at any level in any one skill is (3 + current level) for class skills and (0.5*[3 + current leve]) for cross-class skills. This is why Balance, Intimidate, and Use Magic Device have only 11 ranks at level 20 instead of 23 ranks, like Concentration.

For this build, most of this technical mumbo-jumbo is irrelevant. At character creation, put as many points into Balance, Concentration, Intimidate, and Use Magic Device as you possibly can. At level 20, instead of putting ranks into these skills, put 1 rank (2 points) into Tumble, and 1 point into Concentration. (You will have an unused skill point to put wherever you want.)

Hope that helps!

[Shade]

Lack of +40% Potency 7 means that Prismatic Spray would need to be replaced with Symbol of Stunning.

Potency items have no effect on the damage of prismatic spray.

It seems to behave as if it has +50% dmg all the time, regardless of whats equipped.

For crit chance, I believe it uses all enhancements, whichever is highest. I had fire maxxed and it crit very hard.. 3000+ on a double ray, 1500ish each.

[mediocresurgeon]

Prismatic Spray seems to behave as if it has +50% dmg all the time, regardless of whats equipped

Hey, that's kind of cool. Is that working as intended, or is it going to be "fixed"?

[mediocresurgeon]

Updated.

-Clarified why SP regen items were included in the Optimal Gear section.

[onethreeone]

Good build and discussion, even if the comments didn't start out in the friendliest manner...

For a newbie Sorc looking to make the initial levels as easy as possible, what would you consider decent twink gear got levels 2-6 or so? +SP effects, +crit, or just trying to get as much AC to survive? For instance, I'm assuming the eternal acid wand from WW would be a good pickup.

[mediocresurgeon]

For a newbie Sorc looking to make the initial levels as easy as possible, what would you consider decent twink gear got levels 2-6 or so?

For levels 2-6 you don't really have a lot of options. Something which adds to Cold damage if you take Niacs for early game pwnage, or Force if you prefer Magic Missile. At level 6 you can find a +40% Potency 3 weapon, which is the same level you get Fireball--This will be your best weapon until level 8, when you get Wall of Fire. (Don't be afraid to take spells that are not on my list--my list is for what a level 20 character should have, not what you should be taking early game).

+SP effects

+50 SP trinket is available as a static end reward from Tangleroot (F2P players need to purchase this).

+crit

Don't bother until higher levels.

or just trying to get as much AC to survive?

You will never, ever have a useful AC at any level with this build. Instead of boosting your AC, practice using hand/eye coordination to dodge enemy attacks. 99% of attacks can be dodged in this way with enough practice.

For instance, I'm assuming the eternal acid wand from WW would be a good pickup.

Not really. Although you never will run out of ammo, the poor damage per attack makes it a poor choice, even if you are out of mana. If you have the gold on another character, consider purchasing large quantities of Flame Sphere scrolls (spam these, you can have 7+ up at any one time) and Scorching Ray wands (4d6 direct fire damage).

[poctech]

Hope that helps!

Excellent, thanks for the help!