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    Default Elven dragonmark paladin: advice and improvements

    Here is a build I did by myself and I'm playing it, currently at level 9 and having great fun. Advice and improvements are welcome:

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    Level 20 Lawful Good Elf Male
    (2 Fighter \ 18 Paladin) 
    Hit Points: 312
    Spell Points: 377 
    BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
    Fortitude: 23
    Reflex: 14
    Will: 18
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Stats          Modified Stats
    Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             15                    20
    Dexterity            10                    10
    Constitution         12                    12
    Intelligence          8                     8
    Wisdom               12                    12
    Charisma             16                    18
    
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Stunning Blow
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 2 (Paladin)
    Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage I
    Enhancement: Follower of the Undying Court
    Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
    Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
    
    
    Level 3 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Shadow
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
    
    
    Level 4 (Paladin)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Attack I
    Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
    Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
    
    
    Level 5 (Paladin)
    Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
    Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I
    Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
    
    
    Level 6 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Shadow
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use I
    Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    
    
    Level 7 (Paladin)
    Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
    Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might I
    
    
    Level 8 (Paladin)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Enhancement: Undying Call
    Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
    
    
    Level 9 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use II
    Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
    Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II
    
    
    Level 10 (Paladin)
    Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
    Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar II
    
    
    Level 11 (Paladin)
    Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
    Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III
    
    
    Level 12 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice I
    
    
    Level 13 (Paladin)
    Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good III
    
    
    Level 14 (Paladin)
    Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II
    
    
    Level 15 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
    Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good II
    Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil III
    
    
    Level 16 (Paladin)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice II
    Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice II
    
    
    Level 17 (Paladin)
    Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good IV
    
    
    Level 18 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality
    Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good III
    Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might II
    
    
    Level 19 (Paladin)
    Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands III
    
    
    Level 20 (Paladin)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice III
    Last edited by r3dl4nce; 09-25-2009 at 09:57 AM.

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    I'd trade weapon focus for power attack, and mental toughness for the thrid Dragon mark which is displacement right?( if the third tier is Shadow walk then forget that )

    If your looking to maximize DPS TWF is the way to go, and S/B will be hurting in the end game DPS wise.

    Having a 8 int will hurt with no chance to get Combat expertise and that's 5 less A/C if you go the defense route.

    BUT... it looks like a strong build for soloing and small manning quests, its just not min/maxed towards max DPS or max Survivability.
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    If you need any more feats to move around, you can drop Force of personality. Your will save should still be high enough without it.
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    Displacement is the seconda dragonmark, all the build is based on that. 2weapon fighting on a paladin, i really don't like that, moreover I think I cannot fit 3 more feats in the build. Perhaps Power attack insted of WF:slash could be useful (with undying court and varenar elf attack I already get +2 to hit on scimitars). I mean to build a more party focused toon, with good aura, he can raise dead, and good dps endgame (nothing like a 2wf) with knight of the chalice and divine might.
    Thanks for advices...

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3dl4nce View Post
    2weapon fighting on a paladin, i really don't like that
    if you want to dps, 2wf is the way to go. i don't know that i'd make a pally under 14 con. also, dex?

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    You wanted a snowflake, you got a snowflake. Trying to keep it from melting now just wrecks it. I say go for it, take Skill Focus: Swim and have some fun(in other people's groups).

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    With a holy sword, some good equipment, and aggressive use of your paladin abilities, you can be effective and valuable in most groups. It really depends on your play style and the play style of those you are grouping with. My Defender of Siberys S&B pally gets laughed at some when they see a guy with a big shield, but he's been the last man standing more times than I can count, and has saved more than a few party wipes by taking stones to the shrine once he's used up his res ring. Sure, you can get higher AC with a TWF monk splash, but how many people in PUGs actually have all the equipment to make it work? Oh, and if there's no Pally around, forget your uber max raid buffed AC.

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    Well, if you don't want to go with the TWF feats then you should stick to Falchions and get some THF feats.

    Toughness
    Least DM of Shadow
    Lesser DM of Shadow
    Power Attack
    Extend Spell
    IC: Slashing
    THF
    iTHF
    gTHF
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