Account Bound Items need to be changed!

[Keldornn]

Ok so I decided to buy some points through the DDO store to get some equipment and weapons for my party but after buying them and trying to transfer them to other players I realized that they are bound to my account. Well that is complete BS to me but to make things even worse, I can't even sell the equipment/items to a **** npc store?!!!! What the hell am I supposed to with them? So now I am stuck with half a page full of **** that I can't get rid of without just destroying it and wasting my RL money! I found that I can spend another $18 or whatever to buy a shared account but what the hell is the point in that? If you have shopped in the DDO store you will find that you can only access equipment that is for the class that you are logged in with. Ok well then why would I transfer the equipment for my fighter to my mage? Am I supposed to make all fighter characters?! Man who the hell is in charge of this ****?! I think at the very least, the people who are unfortunate enough to buy **** from the store should be able to trade it back to the store for other items or points so that they can get things they actually need. I bought +2 full plate and 2 +2 dwarven waraxes and the very next day I found +3 full plate and a +5 waraxe so I just spent a ton of points on items that I only used/needed for a day and can't even do anything with. Anyway sorry for the rant but I just needed to vent and hear someone elses opinion on what they think because if it doesn't get changed then I just won't ever spend any more money in the store.

[Angelus_dead]

What the hell am I supposed to with them? So now I am stuck with half a page full of **** that I can't get rid of without just destroying it and wasting my RL money!

You are correct: Many of the items in the DDO store are simply traps for the inexperienced, to trick them into wasting money on things their characters could find anyhow.

Caveat emptor... any minorly experienced player could have informed you of this if you'd asked around.

[Keldornn]

Thanks for the reply Angelus_Dead, yeah I admit that I am a noob when it comes to mmorpg but I still think that this needs to be changed. At least if they want people to spend money in the store more than once anyway. I mean they could at least let you sell the **** equiment to a vendor. Even the "character bound" equipment can be sold to a vendor. I see that there's over 80 views and only 1 person replied so I'm guessing that no one else cares but I think it's a major issue. You guys should leave some feedback here even if it's to tell me I'm just a dumb noob. haha
Seriously though guys, reply to this and let me know if you agree or not.

[Strakeln]

Yes.

Turbine, take the weapons out of the store. You're ripping off your newest players. That's bad business.

(note: there may be good reason for ranged weapons, someone came into the abbot ice puzzle the other day with no ranged capabilities whatsoever... I was of the mind to tell him to either buy a DDO Store Xbow or go find another group.)

[GreenGurgler]

You asked for replies.

I think the main reason most people read your rant and move along is because it is just that:

Y O U R A N T !!

Perhaps try composing a post that isn't so angry and uses some spacing, pacing and punctuation.

Anyway, to the meat of your complaint. While I feel for you, I think you made a mistake and now are mad that Turbine wont help you un-make it. No where does it imply that you CAN transfer the items (in fact here in the forums Devs have said that items bought are bound, maybe somehow this needs to make it into the game somewhere). Once you bought your first item, you should have looked at it, you would have seen it was bound.

Call it a crappy learning lesson but that really is what it is. I can understand your frustration. You were trying to be helpful to others buying equipment and helping out and got bit big time. I bet you wont make that mistake again.

Lastly, I really think the name of this post should be "Store Items need better description" or "Store items should have a warning that they are bound and non transferable". But to claim Turbine should change the whole thing to let you sell/transfer stuff because you made a mistake is pointless, selfish and never going to happen.

Remember, you asked for ANY replies so I threw in my 2 cents. For future reference, change your 'style' of posting and you will get more responses.

Consider me.....
/NOT signed

[GreenGurgler]

One more point why I Think Turbine does not allow you to sell these items (and I am only speculating here).

There is a way to wrack up points indefinitely and for free. If they let you buy items and then sell them for plat/gold then this could potentially be a big way for gold farmers to make in-game gold to sell. It is a potential loophole.

Again, I am purely speculating here.

But you also get another reply

[Angelus_dead]

Turbine, take the weapons out of the store. You're ripping off your newest players. That's bad business.

Alternatively, the DDO store weapons could be changed to increase their enhancement bonus as the character levels, from +2 at level 2 to +5 at level 8. Heck, even toss on Righteous at level 10.

That way, you'd essentially be paying Turbine Points to get the benefit of a typical twink item, without needing to go through the effort of convincing an established player to give you one.

[sunkenfaith]

yup. /signed. I have always wondered why people would spend RL $ to buy a +1 or +2 item when it could be gotten for free or from vendors.

[Keldornn]

You asked for replies.

I think the main reason most people read your rant and move along is because it is just that:

Y O U R A N T !!

Perhaps try composing a post that isn't so angry and uses some spacing, pacing and punctuation.

Anyway, to the meat of your complaint. While I feel for you, I think you made a mistake and now are mad that Turbine wont help you un-make it. No where does it imply that you CAN transfer the items (in fact here in the forums Devs have said that items bought are bound, maybe somehow this needs to make it into the game somewhere). Once you bought your first item, you should have looked at it, you would have seen it was bound.

Call it a crappy learning lesson but that really is what it is. I can understand your frustration. You were trying to be helpful to others buying equipment and helping out and got bit big time. I bet you wont make that mistake again.

Lastly, I really think the name of this post should be "Store Items need better description" or "Store items should have a warning that they are bound and non transferable". But to claim Turbine should change the whole thing to let you sell/transfer stuff because you made a mistake is pointless, selfish and never going to happen.

Remember, you asked for ANY replies so I threw in my 2 cents. For future reference, change your 'style' of posting and you will get more responses.

Consider me.....
/NOT signed

hahaha I knew I would get someone like this to chime in. You know what? Maybe it is a crappy learning lesson and it's even crappier that what I learned is that Turbine is a greedy money grubbing company that really could care less about there new players. It seems to me that you would rather pick apart my post than to add some constructive criticism to it. Also why would you say that my request to have it changed is pointless and selfish?! I am sorry that some people have real lives unlike you and don't have the time to find all the ins and outs of a game and how not to be screwed by the greed of the company. Oh and to your BS comment about me using spacing, pacing and punctuation, why don't you re-read your post and then tell me to fix mine. Haha, you're rediculous flame is pathetic and aimed against me rather than just being on the other side which makes your reply insignificant and useless. Maybe it's YOU that should change your "style" of post and then you wouldn't look like such a little *****.

Anyway back on topic.

[Shadez]

Oh and to your BS comment about me using spacing, pacing and punctuation, why don't you re-read your post and then tell me to fix mine. [/quote]

I'm alrite with my grommar, my priblem is with spilling. I can't spill to save me loaf. I have to rely on the spellchlop on my compluter.

[GreenGurgler]

I see that there's over 80 views and only 1 person replied so I'm guessing that no one else cares but I think it's a major issue. You guys should leave some feedback here even if it's to tell me I'm just a dumb noob. haha
Seriously though guys, reply to this and let me know if you agree or not.

You DID write this in your original post, correct?

So I did reply. Some of it was critical to you, but the rest, like it or not, was accurate.

hahaha I knew I would get someone like this to chime in

So you were trying to bait responses?

Sounds to me like your angry at Turbine and angry at anyone who doesn't come to this post agreeing with you.

Also why would you say that my request to have it changed is pointless and selfish?! I am sorry that some people have real lives unlike you and don't have the time to find all the ins and outs of a game and how not to be screwed by the greed of the company

Lol, I would say it is selfish and pointless as you posted your argument. You want something changed to benefit you because of a mistake you made. That is selfish.

As for your comment about "some people have real lives unlike you", this is simply laughable. Do you know me? Do you have ANY idea who I am or how much I play? Do you have ANY idea what my life is like? What my age is? It makes it easier to justify in your own mind if you ASSUME I am a no life, 24/7 game playing fat, mommas basement living geek who has never seen a grown woman naked that I didn't pay for.
LOL, yeah, right. If you had such super powers of insight IN the game as you obviously have outside the game, you never would have made that mistake. I mean, someone who can see the private lives of a complete stranger they have never met should be able to know that those items were not transferable right?

You are establishing a pattern here with your initial post and your follow up to mine. You fail to get information and then make bad decisions because of it. Then you yell and scream about people not agreeing with you (even after ASKING for the criticism).


You dont really want help, you NEED help.

Good luck to you in game and life, you will go far

[Namarbez]

"You are establishing a pattern here with your initial post and your follow up to mine. You fail to get information and then make bad decisions because of it. Then you yell and scream about people not agreeing with you (even after ASKING for the criticism).


You dont really want help, you NEED help.

Good luck to you in game and life, you will go far"




+1 Rep GreenGurgler! Very well said

[Lobon]

I say ... TAKE THE GLOVES OFF!!!

If you really want to make money than make a server called TWINK.

No I am not kidding.

Let anyone who wants to make a character on that server. However on that server, and that server alone, put all the items from the treasure tables. Every magic item. Bring out the weird stuff like the deck of many things, ring of wishing (would require DM interaction) , Tomes of Darkness and Light, Real Girdles of Giant Strength, etc etc etc

All the stuff that makes the players drool.

Then charge 30 bucks for each of them. Or the equivilent amount of points. Believe it or not you would quadruple your profits Turbine old buddy old pal.

Oh and make it 35 buy in to even play on the server.

[nightskys]

i feel bad for poor Keldornn he wasted his money becuse he was trying to help people. that sucks. i also feel bad for you becuse you have so much anger you are throwing it at anything that trys to help you.

i am trying to help you so go ahead and bite me and rant about my spelling or grammer ( alredy know it sucks). say i have no life becuse i know you will. but here is my help go see someone to help you with your anger or take a brake and go walk through a park or something. maybe quit videogames if it make you this mad. games are for fun thats all if you are not haveing fun than stop playing.

[Branix]

Anyway sorry for the rant but I just needed to vent and hear someone elses opinion on what they think .

The good news is that you can give those items to your alts. Don't have any? Create a mule to carry them until you do need them.

I like the account restriction because it will stop people from buying items from the store then reselling them on the AH or via continuous shouts in the city.

[Missing_Minds]

Let me get this straight... you bought $$$ weapons out of the store to help new players out... rather than go run around in C hills, water works, or whatever else is in the harbor for an hour and give them loot out of there....

ddo store != walmart

/not signed.

[Mercules]

Keldornn,

Veteran players like myself have brought it to the Developer's attention that such items are a bad idea to have in the store since people will feel cheated when they receive +2 items on level 5-6 quests after using their other ones for a very short time or find they can buy them cheap off the marketplace vendor.

We agree they are bad things to have in the store and misleading and are trying to correct that so that others like you do not have bad experiences. Thank you for posting so that we might get them to understand that the issue we mentioned can happen.


However...

You are not going to get anywhere posting as you did and insulting people, well, maybe kicked from the forums.

[Baloc]

Hopefully they change this retro-active to my recent purchase... Very Large Slim quiver (or something). See, I already bought one earlier and loved moving it from toon to toon... imagine my surprise when the one I bought today was bound to the toon I was in when I purchased it! What a major MAJOR pain! Needs to be fixed soon or they'll lose any additional income I'd think of throwing their way...

[AngelofHatred]

Keldornn your are not very smart man. why insult people after asking there opinion, You should know that opinions are individual and that the chance that someone will agree with you is far less likely that getting someone that agrees with you. Calm down and reread the posts man. They are correct you should read more about the online store rather than claim ignorance. Just like in real life ignorance is not an excuse. Read and come prepared next time you post in a forum. All you have shown is that you are a noob at posting, reading, the game, and common sense. Good luck and have fun in the game. READ next time. the forums are full of info. And don't come into a game that you have not really played yet and start declaring changes be made because YOU DON"T LIKE THEM. I like that the items bind so that cancel out your opinion now turbine has one vote for changing and one vote against. You should also be less angry in your posts and replies it just make people think your are childish which is why noone posted at first. Then when you wanted replies they only gave advice about better posting techniques. And bashing on someone because they can't spell does not mean that what they said is wrong it only means your childish and proving there point. But i am sure that you will think that I and all the others are wrong and that you are right becuase that is what shallow minded people like you do. They close there eyes to the truth and look for any way they can make themselves look right and everyone else that does not agree with them look wrong. Even if that reason is as dumb as a response in which you bash on someone for not spelling and typing correctly.

/not signed

P.S. i do /sign the good luck in life response and good luck in game.

[Baervan]

I really hate that new players would unknowingly waste their points on lowbie weapons and armor and having the items bound and unsellable in game is counterproductive. Odds are they purchased the items using accumulated Turbine points doing Korthos and think that the point system is generous but the points will get harder and harder to come by. Even worse is a case like the OP using real $$ for a purchase that has blown up in his face.

If a dev is reading this please reconsider an overhaul of the selling of weapons and armor portion of the store. As it stands this system will only serve to turn new players off your product and create negative word-of-mouth. No weapons in the store or even changing the status quo to allow users to sell the weapons back to the store for a lesser amount of Turbine Points (ie a temporary rent-a-sword type system) are far better options IMO.