LFG Channel

[eridanis]

Every other game I have played (including LOTRO) has one.

nuff said.

The DDO social panel is great but adding a LFG channel would make it mo betta.

[Mercules]

Every other game I have played (including LOTRO) has one.

nuff said.

The DDO social panel is great but adding a LFG channel would make it mo betta.

LFM works 10 times better.

[kuro_zero]

LFM works 10 times better.

Gonna need numbers to substantiate that one

I was thinking of getting starting an open User Channel for LFGs to reduce the clutter of general chat. Sometimes people ask questions in general that get lost with all the LFG and LFP spams.

[KKDragonLord]

This has been already suggested:

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=201361

Also, the LFM system is better overall and deviating from that is less than optimal for this game, what is needed is an effort to teach new players how and why they should use LFMs.

The Great things about LFMs is how with but a single glance it is possible to know everything you need about a group you may or may not want to join.

An LFG channel would be cluttered with LFG spams with near zero information and would complicate finding appropriate groups in many many ways.

[Shaamis]

Gonna need numbers to substantiate that one

I was thinking of getting starting an open User Channel for LFGs to reduce the clutter of general chat. Sometimes people ask questions in general that get lost with all the LFG and LFP spams.

Funny, none of this happened before F2P.

There is an advice channel thats as simple as "/a" and people still dont use it, what makes you think people are gonna use an LFM channel, when it's too hard to type "/a" for advisce?

I do not agree with the OP, the LFM channel is the one thing that should really be used, because if you have an LFM channel, now there are TWO places you have to scan for groups. how about we all take a moment to use the tool that is already implemented correctly. The LFM panel lets you put in the adventure, the difficulty, the character classes, and levels appropriate, AND gives you room to say anything else.

can you imagine how much channel space per entry that would take for every tom, ****, and harry to slap up whenever they want?

Here's another idea: when you put up and LFM for a level 2 quest, set the levels appropriate to AROUND THAT LEVEL. I have to scan halfway down the LFM panel to skip all of the "korthos island quests" with a level spread of 1-20.

[whysper]

I was thinking of getting starting an open User Channel for LFGs to reduce the clutter of general chat. Sometimes people ask questions in general that get lost with all the LFG and LFP spams.

The solution is not to create yet another channel to follow, but to encourage everyone to use the excellent grouping mechanism we already have: the LFM screen.

[Lerincho]

we do not need a channel for something that there is an entire social pannel for. people just need to learn how to use it properly and stop spamming general chat.

[Borror0]

Channels are spammy and require constant attention for the ones LFM and the ones LFG to (which can't quest as they got to spam LFG).

An LFG tab would be far better for the same reason an LFM tab is superior to an LFM channel.

[eridanis]

The main reason is that every mmo vet that logs in expects a /lfg channel because that's what every other game does. The LFM panel may be superior but its a barrier to new players. A lot of them don't know its there.

And if you don't like seeing the LFG channel just turn it off.

[Lerincho]

The main reason is that every mmo vet that logs in expects a /lfg channel because that's what every other game does. The LFM panel may be superior but its a barrier to new players. A lot of them don't know its there.

And if you don't like seeing the LFG channel just turn it off.

this isn't every other MMO, this is DDO that has a very interactive LFG/LFM panel. they have spent a lot of time creating and making adjustments on this panel. people should learn to use it properly before they come up with ADDED work for something that is already functional. more time for quests, less time spending on CHAT changes.

[eridanis]

I was thinking of getting starting an open User Channel for LFGs to reduce the clutter of general chat. Sometimes people ask questions in general that get lost with all the LFG and LFP spams.

I was thinking of doing the same on Argonessan. Instead of snubbing all the new players by telling them LTP it could be used to teach them about the LFM panel.

[Borror0]

The LFM panel may be superior but its a barrier to new players. A lot of them don't know its there.

That's only an argument to make the existence of the LFM panel more apparent, like talking about it in the tutorial, for example.

And if you don't like seeing the LFG channel just turn it off.

If players spam LFG but do not look at the LFM, there is inefficiency in the design as people interested in running the same quest may not be aware of each other

Preferably, you spot the best option(s) to facilitate and ignore all others so that everyone use the same mean(s0 to communicate.

[whysper]

I was thinking of doing the same on Argonessan. Instead of snubbing all the new players by telling them LTP it could be used to teach them about the LFM panel.

...Or you could kindly nudge them toward the LFM panel when you see the LFG messages in General chat

[Shaamis]

...Or you could kindly nudge them toward the LFM panel when you see the LFG messages in General chat

QFT.

It's how we all learned. Just because you are a "veteran" of other MMOs means you dont have to learn another new trick. I will start helping new players in this way as well, so they can spread the word once they see how it can benefit them.

I still see 50% of the LFM panel being used inefficiently: several WW quests with level spreads of 1-20, all of them with 1-2 characters in them.

It will take time, remember we are only a few weeks into Mod 9, and some of the new players have come from games they have played for YEARS, and havent had to honestly learn anything new for almost as long.

[Cyr]

Bleh, make your own if you want it.

LOTRO sucked horribly for finding groups. Mostly due to it's horrible LFM panel.

In DDO they actually got that one right. The grouping panels are easy to use and show you all the info you want in a compact space. Channels are just are how many times you can shout 'hey guys come do ww with me!'... And yeah, someone seriously needs to put the using the LFM panel in the tutorial. Too many noobs just don't realize it is there since they are used to the inferior channels in other games.

[eridanis]

With the bad attitudes towards new players expressed on these forums and in game its no wonder this game almost died.

Thank goodness it didn't, I guess I should thank you all for helping make DDO free.

[Mercules]

With the bad attitudes towards new players expressed on these forums and in game its no wonder this game almost died.

Thank goodness it didn't, I guess I should thank you all for helping make DDO free.

When did the game almost die?

Yes, some of us are a bit harsh on some people but usually the people who catch attitude are those presenting attitude, such as posting, "With the bad attitudes..."

[whysper]

Yes, some of us are a bit harsh on some people but usually the people who catch attitude are those presenting attitude, such as posting, "With the bad attitudes..."

Well, eridanis is right, trying to integrate new people seamlessly into the game and get them using the best grouping system in any MMO rather than some horrible cludge is terribly rude