sorcerer/fighter (low dex)

[hanslurchwolt]

trying to build a sorcerer/fighter multiclass

first i was fiddling around with sorc/pala and TWF, but since theres a strength enhancement for fighter and bonus feats I'll choose that path

goals: decent DPS, but also some manipulation-style (not necessarily soloable, but some kind of sorc-allrounder) and the ability to stand meele-combat

so i tried lil bit and got this...

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hasufell 
Level 20 Chaotic Good Drow Female
(2 Fighter \ 18 Sorcerer) 
Hit Points: 174
Spell Points: 2029 
BAB: 11\11\16\21
Fortitude: 11
Reflex: 6
Will: 18

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
Abilities        (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             15                 17                   18
Dexterity            10                 10                   10
Constitution         14                 14                   14
Intelligence         10                 10                   10
Wisdom                8                  8                    8
Charisma             18                 21                   24

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               0                     0
Bluff                 4                     7
Concentration         6                    24
Diplomacy             4                     7
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                4                     7
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  0                     0
Intimidate            4                     7
Jump                  2                     4
Listen               -1                     1
Move Silently         0                     0
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                     0
Search                0                     2
Spot                 -1                     1
Swim                  2                     4
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      6                    18.5

Level 1 (Sorcerer)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Spell (1): Burning Hands
Spell (1): Charm Person


Level 2 (Sorcerer)
Spell (1): Hypnotism


Level 3 (Sorcerer)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell
Spell (1): Niac's Cold Ray


Level 4 (Sorcerer)
Spell (2): Web


Level 5 (Sorcerer)
Spell (2): Resist Energy


Level 6 (Sorcerer)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Spell (3): Fireball


Level 7 (Sorcerer)
Spell (2): Scorching Ray
Spell (3): Haste


Level 8 (Sorcerer)
Spell (4): Stoneskin


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Fluidity I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Fluidity II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Fluidity III
Enhancement: Sorcerer Improved Empowering I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Improved Maximizing I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Lineage of Elements I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Lineage of Elements II
Enhancement: Sorcerer Lineage of Deadly Elements I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Elemental Manipulation I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Elemental Manipulation II
Enhancement: Sorcerer Elemental Manipulation III
Enhancement: Sorcerer Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded II
Enhancement: Sorcerer Charisma I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Charisma II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I


Level 11 (Sorcerer)
Spell (2): Bull's Strength
Spell (3): Hold Person
Spell (4): Wall of Fire


Level 12 (Sorcerer)
Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality
Spell (5): Cone of Cold


Level 13 (Sorcerer)
Spell (3): Deep Slumber
Spell (4): Fire Shield
Spell (5): Hold Monster


Level 14 (Sorcerer)
Spell (6): Otiluke's Freezing Sphere


Level 15 (Sorcerer)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Spell (4): Charm Monster
Spell (5): Dominate Person


Level 16 (Sorcerer)
Spell (7): Mass Hold Person
Enhancement: Sorcerer Lineage of Elements III
Enhancement: Sorcerer Lineage of Deadly Elements II
Enhancement: Sorcerer Elemental Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded III
Enhancement: Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded IV
Enhancement: Sorcerer Charisma III


Level 17 (Sorcerer)
Spell (5): Break Enchantment
Spell (6): Flesh to Stone
Spell (7): Otto's Sphere of Dancing


Level 18 (Sorcerer)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Spell (8): Polar Ray


Level 19 (Sorcerer)
Spell (7): Protection From Elements, Mass
Spell (8): Trap the Soul


Level 20 (Sorcerer)
Spell (9): Meteor Swarm
Enhancement: Sorcerer Improved Empowering II
Enhancement: Sorcerer Improved Maximizing II
Enhancement: Sorcerer Improved Maximizing III
Enhancement: Sorcerer Lineage of Deadly Elements III

[Noctus]

trying to build a sorcerer/fighter multiclass

For such a combination all other races pale in comparisation to the warforged race. The niceimmunities, and most important, self-healing makes a huge difference for such a inherently difficult combination.


Also what do you want with this multiclass?
* Fighter with some spells?
* Mage with some melee capabilities to fall back to?

Different answers will lead to vastly different build advice.

[hanslurchwolt]

For such a combination all other races pale in comparisation to the warforged race. The niceimmunities, and most important, self-healing makes a huge difference for such a inherently difficult combination.


Also what do you want with this multiclass?
* Fighter with some spells?
* Mage with some melee capabilities to fall back to?

Different answers will lead to vastly different build advice.

definitely the second way

im not going to solo with this build and it should not be the primary group-tank. its just an adjusted sorc with enhanced melee capability, but it should last a while if aggroed

i also thought of raising diplomacy...

basically im not very sure about the abilities... maybe const 14 is too low but without 18 strength and not many fighter-enhancements chosen i wont hit much

i also thought about warforged, but cause i dont wanna just build a fighter with some spells (sorc should be 18 or 19) the drow seemed to have the best ability-adjusment + those enhancements that lower spell failure for armor

but i'm open for warforged-builds as well...

[Noctus]

If you mainly play in groups, Drow will be fine, to melee in certain occasions.

its just an adjusted sorc with enhanced melee capability

In this case you should stay pure Sorcerer, so not to loose the Capstone enhancement, and to not take a noticeable blow to your ability to beat Spell Resistances of monsters, which is a relevant issue in level 16+.
Get your melee capabilities through Master´s Touch and Divine Power clickys. Displacement, Rage and Stoneskin on yourself, use a 2-handed-weapon and you can deal some damage in melee, if you have a reasonable base STR.



P.S.
Kick those Mental Thoughness feats, they are not very cost-efficient on a Sorcerer.

[Failstorm666]

if you need to splash two levels on a melee class, i'd go paladin, since a sorc has high CHA, you'll get very nice saving throws, the Concentration aura (if there is no other pally around), +1 CHA from the pally enhance line