Monk race?

[Uska]

at lvl 17 my monk has 1279 favor without really trying.

another question for the monks:

how come i can't select gtwf - i have all the requirements: dex, bab, and itwf - what gives?

base dex high enough?

[Aerendil]

Base dex for ITWF and GTWF is the same, I think. So if they have ITWF, they should be qualified for GTWF.

Which means it must be a BAB issue, as Monks are only treated as 3/4 classes for feat prereq's. I think at 15 a pure Monk is just shy of qualifying, which means you might have to wait till 18.

Haven't any manuals in front of me or anything, but that's my gut instinct on this one.

[Uska]

Base dex for ITWF and GTWF is the same, I think. So if they have ITWF, they should be qualified for GTWF.

Which means it must be a BAB issue, as Monks are only treated as 3/4 classes for feat prereq's. I think at 15 a pure Monk is just shy of qualifying, which means you might have to wait till 18.

Haven't any manuals in front of me or anything, but that's my gut instinct on this one.

Just checked my lvl 17 monk and she has GTWF so she had to get it at lvl 15 and its base 17 dex for it and ITWF so wonder what the issue

[Uska]

at lvl 17 my monk has 1279 favor without really trying.

another question for the monks:

how come i can't select gtwf - i have all the requirements: dex, bab, and itwf - what gives?

hmm you should be able to my lvl 17 monk has it.

[D'rin]

Dwarven monks are also good if you want to go with tactics. Of course that is with the assumption they fix weighted handwraps to work with stunning blow. With stunning fist, stunning blow and improved trip you have some good crowd control. Not to mention some decent damage out put.

[Aerendil]

Dwarven monks are also good if you want to go with tactics. Of course that is with the assumption they fix weighted handwraps to work with stunning blow. With stunning fist, stunning blow and improved trip you have some good crowd control. Not to mention some decent damage out put.

If they ever fix weighted handwraps, we shouldn't need dwarven / warforged tactics at all!

+5 weighted = +10 to DC, which would put Stunning Fist at 10 (base) + 10 (5% weighted) + half-monk level + wis mod. A 20 pure monk with, say, 30 Wis (not unreasonable) would have a DC 40 stunning fist.
Even a Monk with Wis as a dump stat would have a 30+ DC.

Sick.
Maybe that's why they're delaying the fix?

[LookingForABentoBox]

Dwarven monks are also good if you want to go with tactics. Of course that is with the assumption they fix weighted handwraps to work with stunning blow. With stunning fist, stunning blow and improved trip you have some good crowd control. Not to mention some decent damage out put.

Warforged get the same bonuses to stunning fist as dwarves, how much does that extra 2 pts of wis factor in?

[Maegin]

Human.

[Drakons20]

at lvl 17 my monk has 1279 favor without really trying.

another question for the monks:

how come i can't select gtwf - i have all the requirements: dex, bab, and itwf - what gives?

Because only your natural dex matters, your probably thinking, items, enhancements put you over but it doesn't for feats. You'd need your naked dex without enhancements to be high enough.

[Fennario]

Halfing has the best monk synergy for me.


Dex as a racial stat
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Cheaper to raise dex at creation for gtwf and ac. You can raise dex +2 via enhancements which allow you to put level ups into wis and not hurt your combat stat as much (finesse).


Cunning and guile enhancements
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Goes great with unbalancing strike. More than makes up for the str hit that halflings take.


Halfling luck
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+1 to hit, +1 to ac, +1 to saves. Don't need to elaborate on that I don't think.

[78mackson]

Halfing has the best monk synergy for me.


Dex as a racial stat
-------------------

Cheaper to raise dex at creation for gtwf and ac. You can raise dex +2 via enhancements which allow you to put level ups into wis and not hurt your combat stat as much (finesse).


Cunning and guile enhancements
--------------------------------

Goes great with unbalancing strike. More than makes up for the str hit that halflings take.


Halfling luck
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+1 to hit, +1 to ac, +1 to saves. Don't need to elaborate on that I don't think.

while all this might be great.. there is one thing that is even greater.. Heroes Companion.

[Uska]

Because only your natural dex matters, your probably thinking, items, enhancements put you over but it doesn't for feats. You'd need your naked dex without enhancements to be high enough.

if he has improved two weapon fighting his raw dex is high enough.

[Fennario]

while all this might be great.. there is one thing that is even greater.. Heroes Companion.

Yes that is indeed an awesome buff for others if you can fit it in. I don't have it on my monk, but I do have it on my halfling bard. I think it works better on my bard because buffing is what he does, so he is already tuned in to the party's buffs.

[78mackson]

Yes that is indeed an awesome buff for others if you can fit it in. I don't have it on my monk, but I do have it on my halfling bard. I think it works better on my bard because buffing is what he does, so he is already tuned in to the party's buffs.

actually it works equally good on anything that is halfling...

melees* in general have nothing to think about so it should be easier for a class that have "nothing" to think about to apply HC twice/minute.

* this might not apply to monk, since I have waaay to little experience of playing em. But I assume its a "selfish-class" as any of the other melee.

+4dmg(taking the last step is a bit expensive AP-wise) from HC is +25dps on a kensai or 1500 extra damage/minute and u can apply it on 2 ppl aswell, cd is 30s.. kinda easy to simulate, just turn off PA. Very noticable. +4 saves isnt that bad either...

[Maegin]

Halfing has the best monk synergy for me.


Dex as a racial stat
-------------------

Cheaper to raise dex at creation for gtwf and ac. You can raise dex +2 via enhancements which allow you to put level ups into wis and not hurt your combat stat as much (finesse).


Cunning and guile enhancements
--------------------------------

Goes great with unbalancing strike. More than makes up for the str hit that halflings take.


Halfling luck
------------

+1 to hit, +1 to ac, +1 to saves. Don't need to elaborate on that I don't think.

All very valid.

Human. Better healing. Human versatility allows delegation of buffs/damage/ etc. as opposed to constantly relying on someone else for aggro/unbalancing strike. +2 DEX or +1 DEX and +1STR/WIS/CON? Lets face it, your going to get hit, so reach an appropriate ac lvl and worry about mitigation as opposed to all or nothing.

On that note of human versatility...
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Have you ever had enough ac, but didnt need it cause you werent the main tank? convert one of those ac clickies into damage. Ever grabbed aggro off something you werent supposed to and need a bit more ac to turtle up or stave off aggro? Ever been at a vendor with an 8 CHA/HoGF/Haggle item ready to sell off vendor trash? Ever been debuffed and needed that extra bump to saves to get you through a tough fight of trap?All this? Human versatility ftw.
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extra feat = weapon focus which makes up for size to hit. Halflings get -2 STR, but +2 DEX (evens out, and this is also assuming weapon finesse, but just about every monk takes that so..) They get +1 size and +AP DEX. So the +1 size = weapon focus for human feat, BUT halfings get +DEX AP's, which add to hit/ac. BUT, i'd rathe sometimes turn my ac into damage with my AP's, thus Human versatility. Monks saves are already ******** high too, so its basically auto success or roll 1, but even monks roll 1's lol. So i'd rather spend a clicky for extra saves (if I think i need it) than a static, or, convert my saves into DPS via human versatility.

So what i get outta halfing? a Net perma 1-2+ AC, otherwise human allows for adjustments at the time.

I prefer human, cause I can turn anything, into anything. Moreflexibility for a flexible class.

But both very valid.

[ezgoezit]

I only have limited experience on DDO so far, but I am really happy with the halfling wis/dex monk I have built. He is only lvl 3 so far (at the brink of 4th) and he already has 29 ac without going out of my way to get any special eq. Maybe I am just lucky though. I breaze through quests on solo, normal and sometimes even hard by myself and have had no troubles even finishing 5th lvl quests.

Before I started I asked some friends that play which class and race combo was best for playing solo because I can only play at odd times with very little consistancy. They suggested the halfling monk because of the evasion, great saves, nice ac, self healing and decent dps if built well and while it is probably too soon for me to make any claims, that is what I have seen so far.

After doing some research, I have reconsidered my plans to only solo DDO, because it looks like it might be easier to party here than some other MMOs I have played. I am just a little gun shy and want to get some more experience under my belt because I don't want to hold parties back by being a total noob.

Thanks,

Ez

[tat272]

What race is best for a monk? What race is best for a 28 point monk?

I play a Half-Orc and he is pretty **** good so far. (lv 5 so far)

[Bosco]

What race is best for a monk? What race is best for a 28 point monk?

Dwarves make good monks. They get a racial line that will add 3 to the dc for combat feats. They also get a bonus to con and the minus to cha wont effect most builds.

Halflings and halfeves do well with the backstab damage.

Drow I guess are ok but really wouldnt be my first choice in a monk build.

WF suffer from wis loss so would be a tough choice for a 28 point build.

Human can take the healing amp making it real nice for light based monks.

Which race is the best? It really depends on what you are looking to accomplish. Each race has advantages.

[edgarallanpoe]

I play a Half-Orc and he is pretty **** good so far. (lv 5 so far)

You necro a 5 yr old thread for *this* response? rofl

[Todkaninchen]

You necro a 5 yr old thread for *this* response? rofl

Speaking of necro...

What's the deal with pale-master/monks and is there a best race for necro monks?