What are they thinking; and where are they taking us???

[Kylas_Maernos]

Wow..... just wow!. That's about the only way I can describe what I am thinking (without breaking CoC). After the recent update it really makes people wonder what the powers that be in Turbines decision making matrix are really thinking.

I've been a continuous player for well over 3 years now, Have 2 paid accounts, and have been reasonably happy over the years when some people were complaining the hardest. I normally just take things in stride with game 'adjustments' as they have hit the servers, and while some were good and others bad, they didn't impact the overall enjoyment and feel that made this game what it.....it...... I was going to say "is" but that's not accurate anymore.

The combat system in this game has always been the drawing force for a large number of the DDO faithful that carried this game on their backs during the last 2 years. There is nothing on the market that can realistically hold a candle to the combat that we've come to love and embrace. (The eye candy and all that is good too, don't get me wrong)

Ironically, with the business model now changed to a free to play, all those in the past that have threatened to cancel their account, or those in the future that plan to do the same, might as well pee directly into a strong wind, because that's about as much effect it will have.

I sincerely hope that the general outcry over this change to one of the games strongest foundation pieces is re-adjusted to something that is a better compromise that will acheive what developers are trying to acoomplish and keep the general population from feeling like they've been wronged.

Players should enjoy the game for slaying monsters in the quests, not feeling like they need to beat the monsters in the boardroom.

Kylas
Proud Member of Legendary Knights of Mabar

[pjw]

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Nothing in the wall of text told me what exactly you were complaining about...

[Gaucomo]

Nothing in the wall of text told me what exactly you were complaining about...

This was one of the most well thought out and nicest posts i have read about the recent changes.. if you don't know what the post is about, something is wrong with your ability to.. use common sense? (that seems harsh since i am not trying to troll or anything but, seriously.. what is the ONLY thing in the recent patch that people are creating multiple posts about on the forums right now?)

I have to admit, i haven't played in 2-3 years but, i played enough back in the day (several level 10 characters) that when i first read this i couldn't get over the feeling it just didn't seem... good. Even though i haven't re-familiarized myself with the game enough to completely understand the core impact this change has had.. i'm still left with kind of a 'been wronged' feeling myself.

[adamkatt]

Broken record here but the combat system has always gone through changes... if they mess it up they will fix it real soon....

[Memnir]

if they mess it up they will fix it real soon....

The same "they" that rammed Dungeon Alerts down our necks? Excuse me as I scoff just a little bit.

[Fetchi]

I was just about to post a topic on this very subject but it looks like I would be a dead horse beater. I logged in last night for a few hours on all my toons to see how the changes felt.

Bottom line - it made combat not so fun - it felt like I was fighting in molasses.

[adamkatt]

The same "they" that rammed Dungeon Alerts down our necks? Excuse me as I scoff just a little bit.

bahhh you have a good point... i am not a fan of DA either..

[Twerpp]

Broken record here but the combat system has always gone through changes... if they mess it up they will fix it real soon....

They gotta be told they messed it up.

[Thrudh]

They gotta be told they messed it up.

They know... Eladrin posted changes will be made

[Raegoul]

Yep still no complaint to be found.

[abull74]

Combat is broken....I am a 3.5yr veteran....still pay to play...and i have to say that this is the ONLY change to the game that has ****ed me off. I can't kill a self healing mob due to the fact that it has time to whistle the national anthem, dance a jig, and cast two heals on itself ALL in between each of my swings....


W-T-F!!

Devs, yall need to fix this sh!t!!

[KoboldKiller]

The swing rate is painfully slow, however I have no problems taking MOBs down.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Combat is broken....I am a 3.5yr veteran....still pay to play...and i have to say that this is the ONLY change to the game that has ****ed me off. I can't kill a self healing mob due to the fact that it has time to whistle the national anthem, dance a jig, and cast two heals on itself ALL in between each of my swings....


W-T-F!!

Devs, yall need to fix this sh!t!!

It is my understanding the visual attack speed is reduced, but your actual attacks per minute are supposed to be the same in every case except where you were using twitch to beat what the attacks per round were supposed to be.

[Thrudh]

Combat is broken....I am a 3.5yr veteran....still pay to play...and i have to say that this is the ONLY change to the game that has ****ed me off. I can't kill a self healing mob due to the fact that it has time to whistle the national anthem, dance a jig, and cast two heals on itself ALL in between each of my swings....


W-T-F!!

Devs, yall need to fix this sh!t!!

You're attacking the same number of times, the animations are just painfully slow (when unhasted). You should be able to kill that self-healing mob just the same as you ever did... you just won't look as cool doing it...

I too want the animation speed increased, but my killing power isn't much different...

[Strakeln]

Nothing in the wall of text told me what exactly you were complaining about...

Yep still no complaint to be found.

Hmmmmm...

The combat system in this game

Doesn't seem very difficult to me. Have you guys tried reading the OP?

[Velexia]

The attack speed change, obviously.

[7-day_Trial_Monkey]

The attack speed change, obviously.

I see more complaints about mouse-look mode than anything.

Seriously bad job by the OP at actualy letting us know what they heck they are going on about.

Besides, I played last night and have no problem whatsover with the attack changes. So realy, why would I jump to the conlusion that's the issue here?

[enochiancub]

What is this even about? Combat Speed, F2P, The Mouse?

[Ciaran]

I see more complaints about mouse-look mode than anything.

Seriously bad job by the OP at actualy letting us know what they heck they are going on about.

Besides, I played last night and have no problem whatsover with the attack changes. So realy, why would I jump to the conlusion that's the issue here?

Your subjective experience and opinion of the attack changes doesn't preclude you from noticing the several threads complaining about those changes. In fact you seem to be aware there are attack changes.

Since you seem to be aware of the combat changes and since the OP references the Combat system and the changes, as illustrated here:

The combat system in this game has always been the drawing force for a large number of the DDO faithful that carried this game on their backs during the last 2 years. There is nothing on the market that can realistically hold a candle to the combat that we've come to love and embrace. (The eye candy and all that is good too, don't get me wrong)

And here:

I sincerely hope that the general outcry over this change to one of the games strongest foundation pieces is re-adjusted to something that is a better compromise that will acheive what developers are trying to acoomplish and keep the general population from feeling like they've been wronged.

Why wouldn't you draw the conclusion that is the issue here? Or did you think he meant that mouse look was one of the game's strongest foundations?

Seriously, bad job by you at picking up on context clues.

[Robi3.0]

This was one of the most well thought out and nicest posts i have read about the recent changes.. if you don't know what the post is about, something is wrong with your ability to.. use common sense? (that seems harsh since i am not trying to troll or anything but, seriously.. what is the ONLY thing in the recent patch that people are creating multiple posts about on the forums right now?)

I have to admit, i haven't played in 2-3 years but, i played enough back in the day (several level 10 characters) that when i first read this i couldn't get over the feeling it just didn't seem... good. Even though i haven't re-familiarized myself with the game enough to completely understand the core impact this change has had.. i'm still left with kind of a 'been wronged' feeling myself.

Posts I have seen about changes in the recent patch.

1)Changes to estore bags. Which included complaints of deceptive marketing practices.


2) changes to attack speed

Since the OP touched a little on the F2p game and the combat system I can understand why their is confusion.

MMOs are a living breathing game, change happens all the time. Most people will adjust. Some wont. That is the nature of the beast.