Officer of Disciples of the Apocalypse on Sarlona
Himawari Life 3 - 1 FvS | Svipul Life 3 - 1 FvS | Chikaze Life 2 - 2 PAL / 2 MNK / 4 FVS
Completionist Project: GLaDOS - Life 14 of ??: Bladeforged 'Zeus' - Started 22/02/14
Run was advertised as a speed run for flagging, meaning (at least on Khyber) that if you're able, you start the quest as soon as you arrive. So my choices were to either stand around for 15 minutes, waiting everyone to join and get out there so I could pop the chests I earned, or go in the quest and - you know, play the game.
There's courtesy, then there's going overboard. Waiting for people who haven't even joined yet to pop an outdoor explorer chest? That's overboard.
Great example of what happens when you assume.
As mentioned in the previous post, it was a speed flagging run.
Edit: I highly encourage you to add my characters to your list, though I doubt it will do much good over on Ghallanda... nice troll.
Last edited by Strakeln; 09-16-2009 at 02:19 PM.
To the OP, insofar as MyDDO.com review is, it is not a "true" reflection of that persons build but rather what they were equiped, using at the time of log, so dont be fooled by the numbers.
To all the other peeps.
#1. its a game and in the end, when you log off, no one cares if your the best player out there killin stuff, thinking your da' man, or da' woman because in RL your nothing to us unless your a RL friend so why have a tude or think your better. I bet I can kick all your arses in the Arcade game Tempest, but who cares right? Apply the same logic!
#2 insofar as looting chest in slayer and quests, I play it down the middle and based upon current party members. If its a pug zerg, then its first come first serve in my books. If i'm leading, its looted if your currently in group. If im in a pug social scene, its a dash of wait before i loot. And if its friends or guildies, I wait as long as it takes.
But in the end, does it effin matter? I mean really. In most cases I would agree with strak insofar as waiting on a guy who should be at least "running" towards the instance then gabbing at a bar, but hey, like i said, I choose a procedure based upon the evidence.
In Straks statement, this so called guy was not "playing" the game but was gabbing, I would have waited a few minutes, but I would have also said, "hey, sorry guys, but could you get to the slayer area so I can open this chest" 9/10 times that usually provokes a positive response rather then a negative one and it gets me moving faster WHILE keeping people happy. If they chose to ignore me, then its a sign iof disrespect and as such keep the motto, "turn about is fair play"
cheers!
Ah, advertised as a speed run. Gotcha. That's the missing piece. It didn't sound right. I should've realized you would have only joined an LFM advertised as a speed run or made your own group.
The slow nature of the group forming up, as you described in your earlier post, is what confused me.
Sounded like anything but a speed run. LOL.
I am in no hurry to get to the end. But I do want to make sure that I do not spend half my life waiting on people. If I do things my pace and expect others to do the same. You feel you somehow can impose your rythmn to me and that the second you join my group, that entitles you to force me to play your way. How is your attitude so much "holier then thou". I do not wish to force you to play my way (you can drop my group if you don't want to play that way), but i definitely will not accept that you force your playstyle on me. Everyone is entitled to enjoy the game the way they want to, for me it is all about playing and questing, I don't enjoy sitting around doing nothing.
I'm not seeing how you are "losing" a chest if I am in the quest clearing, saving the rest of the group 5 minutes on a completion which takes usually 20 minutes, thus making your time vs loot vs xp 25% more efficient and that you can use that return to take 5 minutes to actually run out of a fresh outdoor area to actually get another chest. It wouldn't make much sense for me to loot a chest and head to the quest entrance if I was planning on waiting inside the quest and not clear now would it? If I make a concious decision to loot it, it's because I wish to start clearing the quest because I am either bored or limited on time, probably the later. The fact that you did nothing to get the chest really doesn't entitle you to decide if I can or cannot loot it. You've put 0 effort into it so by me looting it, you do not loose a chest. All that robs you is a free gift. Last time I checked, the person who gives the gift actually decides if they do want to give one.
If my playstyle doesn't fit with yours and that makes you angry for some reason, then feel free to talk about it with a psychiatrist or your wife or something, but please don't insult me, my intelligence or my social skills, you know absolutely nothing of me. If you feel like insulting me is a valid way to put your point across, you probably should think twice about insulting someone else's social skills.
Last edited by Ilundel; 09-16-2009 at 03:03 PM.
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I pretty much concur with Strakeln and Yajerman01... however chances I would have waited on the DC'd since they were bloodstone chests ... more then likely since on a monk, run over to the greaves chest cleared and looted it and back while they reconnected.![]()
on a serious note though... I clear a chest I'll tell you, be you want it? Speak up and get your arse moving or am looting it and moving on.
♣ A Baker's dozen in the Prophets of the New Republic and Fallen Heroes. ♣
Abaigeal(TrBd25), Ailiae(TrDrd2), Ambyre(Rgr25), Amilia(Pl20), Einin(TrRgr25), Emili(TrFgt25), Heathier(TrClc22), Kynah(TrMnk25), Meallach(Brb25), Misbehaven(TrArt22), Myara(Rog22), Rosewood(TrBd25) and Sgail(TrWiz20) little somethings with flavour 'n favour
Your concurring with?
. SO what meds are you on? lol j/k
Aye that, you usually ask where we are at and/or do you want the chest?
And my reply if im far away or busy buying stuff is "go ahead or im good"
Hey, anyone wanna take through New invasion yet, i have yet to pug a group that completes it, im calling in guild backup support! whoot!
Yeah, I think this is where my example fails. The chests I was talking about had nothing better than a few Draconic Runes in 'em... a chest with a shot at a named item may be different.
I say "may" because I'm on the fence regarding the bloodstone. It's a ridiculously easy chest to farm, it seems to pop 90% of the time, etc etc. It's not like it's a raid chest or a hard-to-access chest with named loot in it... but still, a chance at a bloodstone is a chance at a bloodstone.
For a clearly important chest (ex: raid chest), I'll wait for quite a while. Also, I'm much more willing to wait for DCs than I am for slow-asses.
Agreed. I'm all about being courteous. However, oftentimes it is taken to a ridiculous extreme by people that have no respect for other peoples' time. I don't think there is any chest in the game I would wait more than five minutes for nor would I expect any different.
Every five minutes you cause a raid to wait is an hour of human life you have just wasted.
sravana, kirtana, smarana, dasya, atma-nivedana
...NAMASTE...
No bearing. Try drinking and driving, it speeds you up!
Inexcusable. It's like American Express... you simply don't leave home without it.
See previous response.
Solved by haste. See response previous to previous response.![]()
Well as a pro elitist jerk.
This is what I think. You all noobed it up pretty hard. L2P!lol
Moving on... cause I don't post enough
Be indeed brings me to rebuttal these claims of the zurging lunatic as being inconsiderate... being so I love to zurge with others zurging so called lunatics as myself, then are times I do crawl – typically with those who crawl...
Why? Well because I am being considerate, less those little worms crawling 'bout hardly ever if return such favor and zurge along with me. Why be it I am to be thoughtful, slow down waste my buff timers, time to gain more loot, more xp yet be considered selfish should I move like the wind... while those who would view me as such waddle 'long? ... They themselves are inconsiderate of how I wish to play.![]()
Remember three buffs required "rage haste and RAGE!" haste be the chequered flag and all others icying on the cake.
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♣ A Baker's dozen in the Prophets of the New Republic and Fallen Heroes. ♣
Abaigeal(TrBd25), Ailiae(TrDrd2), Ambyre(Rgr25), Amilia(Pl20), Einin(TrRgr25), Emili(TrFgt25), Heathier(TrClc22), Kynah(TrMnk25), Meallach(Brb25), Misbehaven(TrArt22), Myara(Rog22), Rosewood(TrBd25) and Sgail(TrWiz20) little somethings with flavour 'n favour
I agree, Emi! There's nothing worse than putting "zerg" or "fast run" in your LFM, only to have someone join who still needs to run to Meridia or has to go buy pots/scrolls/common sense. Join my f*#&ing LFM after you do all that stuff or I'm starting without you. These never fail to be the people who don't know their way, too. Then they want ever unnecessary buff created in the game and don't know how to run past certain rooms, only to die and complain that we didn't clear along the way.
On the other hand, if you don't communicate to your group that it's going to be a zergfest, then you have no place to complain that you got a PUG full of dungeon crawlers.