Character Transfers...

[withoutcanseco]

If most of us were allowed to transfer characters over to that server, we could take enough ingredients with us to outfit an army in greensteel. Not to mention the tomes, plat and other gear. Just 1 player could unbalance the entire server or at the very least, twink out his entire guild.

That guild would be the most powerful guild on the server.


I hope they never open it up to transfers................. would be like peeing in a brand new pool.

I can see where you're coming from...but personally I don't care about the power of guilds, and neither do my friends. We group up for fun when we have a chance. So from my viewpoint powerful guilds wouldn't really matter, what matters is me being able to group with their high levels (NOTE: though they have created low level character to group with me for the time being ).

Oh well, it's moot anyways since they probably won't allow it anyways, just really don't see why guild power matters.

[Kerrn_Siff]

Just 1 player could unbalance the entire server or at the very least, twink out his entire guild.

That guild would be the most powerful guild on the server.

I found the above fairly odd considering how DDO works. Noone cares or can even really quantify who is the most 'powerful' guild on a server since they can't deny other people access to things and none of their exploits would be public unless they feel the need to brag on the forums.

By this point there are plenty of fully twinked/raid loot/gs laden toons running around doing epic runs so I don't really see how allowing transfers would mess anything up. I support it myself because I just miss my old toon's faces, some of which I played for years :P

Regardless it will happen at some point since Turbine can make money off of it.

[markusthelion]

i never want transfers to Cannith

please leave your 4 years worth of loot on the other servers

Doesn't matter about that at all, Cannith already has plenty of guys thats grinded and still grinding end game stuff. When you've already got guys thats reincarnted once or twice already, theres plenty of loot everywhere. Theres still people flooding the market with useless high-priced junk and there always will be. Its not like Cannith or any new server will have a better economy by not allowing old character transfers, in fact it may balance it out a bit.

I'm with ya Gummy ALLOW this!

[dj.kickz]

I found the above fairly odd considering how DDO works. Noone cares or can even really quantify who is the most 'powerful' guild on a server since they can't deny other people access to things and none of their exploits would be public unless they feel the need to brag on the forums.

By this point there are plenty of fully twinked/raid loot/gs laden toons running around doing epic runs so I don't really see how allowing transfers would mess anything up. I support it myself because I just miss my old toon's faces, some of which I played for years :P

Regardless it will happen at some point since Turbine can make money off of it.

because if a bunch of people came over and twinked out a bunch of guilds with GS we'd probably stop allowing people who weren't twinked out to raid with us. As it is, we understand that the server is new and not many people are as decked out in gear as some of us and we're quite a bit more relaxed when it comes to gear requirements.

[Kerrn_Siff]

because if a bunch of people came over and twinked out a bunch of guilds with GS we'd probably stop allowing people who weren't twinked out to raid with us. As it is, we understand that the server is new and not many people are as decked out in gear as some of us and we're quite a bit more relaxed when it comes to gear requirements.

Many of those guilds already don't let new people run with them.

[dj.kickz]

Many of those guilds already don't let new people run with them.

As someone who typically leads many of these raids I can only speak for myself and what I've seen my guild mates do. I'm definitely one of the more selective people when it comes to forming raids, but I usually give one or two new people a try whenever we're running something other then a ToD or an Abbot or an epic. Pretty much if i've seen ur name on my lfm list a bunch of times, and we're short a person or two I'll give ya a try and see how you do so I know next time if ur decent or not. I'm not looking for a newb to have outstanding dps or anything like that, just that they have the correct weapons and they follow directions (and their build isnt ********, which seems to be asking a lot).

[Braegan]

As someone who typically leads many of these raids I can only speak for myself and what I've seen my guild mates do. I'm definitely one of the more selective people when it comes to forming raids, but I usually give one or two new people a try whenever we're running something other then a ToD or an Abbot or an epic. Pretty much if i've seen ur name on my lfm list a bunch of times, and we're short a person or two I'll give ya a try and see how you do so I know next time if ur decent or not. I'm not looking for a newb to have outstanding dps or anything like that, just that they have the correct weapons and they follow directions (and their build isnt ********, which seems to be asking a lot).

Of late asking someone to follow direction seems to be a challenge lately.

*News Flash* You want to be re-invited to a raid, follow directions!!! I.E. If you do not know what that stone/lever/valve does please just leave it alone. Chances are the instructions were passed out already but you spaced out and missed that part.

So yeah, I'll give you a first chance just like Dizzy will. But a 2nd??? Pfft good luck.

[withoutcanseco]

this thread made me want to transfer my character even more because, as I suspected, there is no reason to not allow char transfers.


i will pay the first corporation that makes this functionality available TWENTY FIVE dollars ) I promise!

[Dex]

I agree. Whatever anyone felt was a cool reason to not allow character transfers, wake up, the party is over. Unbalancing the server? Too late. I see a few people might be posting from their personal experience, but it would have to be very limited to not see all the excess running around Cannith now. I myself am still fairly under-equipped, with just enough plat to keep me in potions, repair and the occasional super-deal purchase (like a 30kplat vorpal,oo oo). But when I see people who have multiple level 20s, some TR, leaving uber, named, btc/a, and even non-bound, loot in a raid chest, endgame chest because they already have two or three, or no bank space because of all their other uber gear, I just have to laugh that we still have a char transfer embargo.

I don't even have anything uber over on ghallanda, I quit playing when the level limit was 12, and I might have 100kplat there, but I would still like to transfer a couple of chars.

Sorry if you were feeling special because you were on a server that doesn't allow char transfers, but you're not special any longer. Eventually it had to happen I guess.

I will also say that I have a few old buddies who have expressed interest in playing again, but they don't want to start totally over again on cannith, and would probably play as long as they could transfer at least one char over. And that bothers me more than anything I would personally do. Good friends/players being kept away is a definate loss.

C'mon Turbine, time to let my (ghallanda) people go!

I found the above fairly odd considering how DDO works. Noone cares or can even really quantify who is the most 'powerful' guild on a server since they can't deny other people access to things and none of their exploits would be public unless they feel the need to brag on the forums.

By this point there are plenty of fully twinked/raid loot/gs laden toons running around doing epic runs so I don't really see how allowing transfers would mess anything up. I support it myself because I just miss my old toon's faces, some of which I played for years :P

Regardless it will happen at some point since Turbine can make money off of it.

[dj.kickz]

the best part about this thread is all the people who are thinking opening up character transfers will level the playing field on cannith? you don't think most of the people who have bags full of larges on other servers aren't in loot? there's a reason we're the most experienced raiders on this server and thats because many of us have lots of experience from the old servers.

[withoutcanseco]

after reading and contemplating about it, this thread is pretty funny to me.

news flash:

I'm not (and I am in the 80th percentile I GUARANTEE [sp?]) anywhere near caring about any of this high-level pompous guild (or any high-level) garbage. I SIMPLY WANT TO MOVE MY LEVEL 12 FROM ANOTHER SERVER OVER HERE TO HELP MY LEVEL 5 ON CANNITH TO BUY THINGS TO HELP MY FRIENDS THAT ARE LEVEL 5 TO PLAY DUNGEONS AND/OR DRAGONS ONLINE.

It's not difficult to figure out, and not being able to do that actually made me cancel my VIP subscription.

So suck it, DDO elites. And I know you don't care, so suck it, DDO corporation. minus 14.99 USD per month!

[ThunderTank]

Blablabla! freaking snobs! Blablabla dont care about DDO Elite HAHAHA I want to play DDO with my level 12! funk u!

Troll detected. Someone get a cage please.

The diferent inputs and opinions in this thread are interesting. Regardless which they are, would really like the devs to give us an official position over this subject. Yeah, i would also love to bang Beyonce, and drive a Ferrari ... but that ALSO is probably too much to ask.

[dj.kickz]

the dev's have given a official position, there are no character transfers to cannith.

[markusthelion]

the best part about this thread is all the people who are thinking opening up character transfers will level the playing field on cannith? you don't think most of the people who have bags full of larges on other servers aren't in loot? there's a reason we're the most experienced raiders on this server and thats because many of us have lots of experience from the old servers.

Diz I respect you and generaly like "Loot", I just don't understand what your trying to say here. Are you saying that if they did open up transfers to cannith, that you guys would still be the #1 guild? I mean, if so...what does that mean, Its not guild vs. guild here...to me anyways, please explain.....

BTW say hi to Giddlypip for me, love that guy

[cdbd3rd]

after reading and contemplating about it, this thread is pretty funny to me.

news flash:

I'm not (and I am in the 80th percentile I GUARANTEE [sp?]) anywhere near caring about any of this high-level pompous guild (or any high-level) garbage. I SIMPLY WANT TO MOVE MY LEVEL 12 FROM ANOTHER SERVER OVER HERE TO HELP MY LEVEL 5 ON CANNITH TO BUY THINGS TO HELP MY FRIENDS THAT ARE LEVEL 5 TO PLAY DUNGEONS AND/OR DRAGONS ONLINE.

It's not difficult to figure out, and not being able to do that actually made me cancel my VIP subscription.

So suck it, DDO elites. And I know you don't care, so suck it, DDO corporation. minus 14.99 USD per month!

Now see how it goes? We were all happily disagreeing and debating til ya throw that mudball into the mix. I was totally behind you as I also have never worried about raiding, capping out chars, etc, and still scrounge for pennies on Cannith & Orien. (Orien only mentioned as a factual side note, not trying to bring it into the transfer debate scene.)



Now, with that out of the way - there are some ways that are easy & effective for making lowbie cash on these servers:

Check the Stone of Change recipes here on the forums and note what collectibles are used for those recipes. Those do well on the AH.

Muckbanes. Super easy to farm up even for level 1-5s, and also sell nicely (after keeping the first 1 or 2 for yourself, of course.)

Lowbie random loot (even vanilla +1 gear sometimes) will sell thru AH with a 50% face value buyout on it. Even that beats the ~10% ya get from vendors. Clickie items do okay, with some garnering very good prices. Clickies of Det Secret Door were quite valuable last time I looked.




Those little bits add up, try em out.
Good luck, hope your day gets better.

[dj.kickz]

Diz I respect you and generaly like "Loot", I just don't understand what your trying to say here. Are you saying that if they did open up transfers to cannith, that you guys would still be the #1 guild? I mean, if so...what does that mean, Its not guild vs. guild here...to me anyways, please explain.....

BTW say hi to Giddlypip for me, love that guy

im just saying us loot guys aren't arguing against character transfers because we're trying to keep everyone else behind us in terms of who has what on cannith. We'd probably be able to bring over even more stuff then everyone else. It's just we, like most people who didn't start at mod 9, left our old servers to play on cannith because we wanted a new unspoiled server and would like it to stay that way.

[Kerrn_Siff]

im just saying us loot guys aren't arguing against character transfers because we're trying to keep everyone else behind us in terms of who has what on cannith. We'd probably be able to bring over even more stuff then everyone else. It's just we, like most people who didn't start at mod 9, left our old servers to play on cannith because we wanted a new unspoiled server and would like it to stay that way.

The argument that is not being made successfully is how exactly, at this point in the server life-cycle, allowing transfers spoils anything.

Day 1, yes it would have, that's why a lot of us moved here. Day N... who cares? We are running past chests like we would be on our old servers, we skip optionals, have GS items, decked out named lewt toons and at this point run mostly with trusted guilds/friends.

Bringing over toons that we spent months working on saves time and grinding plus adds to our fun. If you feel it spoils the 'purity' of the server.. well don't do it then.

[dj.kickz]

The argument that is not being made successfully is how exactly, at this point in the server life-cycle, allowing transfers spoils anything.

Day 1, yes it would have, that's why a lot of us moved here. Day N... who cares? We are running past chests like we would be on our old servers, we skip optionals, have GS items, decked out named lewt toons and at this point run mostly with trusted guilds/friends.

Bringing over toons that we spent months working on saves time and grinding plus adds to our fun. If you feel it spoils the 'purity' of the server.. well don't do it then.

we've spent maybe 5 months running the shroud and it was closed for 1-2 of those months. if one of my guildies brought over a single character from their old server they would bring an ingredient bag with more larges then all of loot has combined.

[Vaarsuvius]

we've spent maybe 5 months running the shroud and it was closed for 1-2 of those months. if one of my guildies brought over a single character from their old server they would bring an ingredient bag with more larges then all of loot has combined.

again....so what...are others going to hate them for having more stuff???

or is there some competition that I am unaware of?

will all the uber players stop playing now that they have thier hoard with them?

There has yet to be a reason not to have them posted here.

would any of you stop playing if turbine permitted it?

[ThunderTank]

again....so what...are others going to hate them for having more stuff???

or is there some competition that I am unaware of?

will all the uber players stop playing now that they have thier hoard with them?

There has yet to be a reason not to have them posted here.

would any of you stop playing if turbine permitted it?

No and no. But im my opinion im glad that they wont allow it. Its not about competition. Its just that most ppl came to cannith for experiencing that new flavor of a brand server, and started grinding everything from zero. Everyone started at the same point.
At the moment i gladly have 9 tier III dual sharded items. No big deal, and wont change anything in my gameplay if someone would bring a bag full of ingredients from another server. But for me the personal value of the things achieved that fast in a brand new server would change.