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    Default FvS Prestige Class Speculation

    I'd like to hear from other players about what they'd like to see in Favored Soul prestige classes as well as what they expect Turbine to implement. Personally, I have no PnP experience so I have no idea what might be drawn from to implement FvS PrEs in DDO. However, going on Turbine's designs so far, I would not be surprised to see three initial FvS PrEs - one focused on healing, one on offensive casting, and one on melee.

    1. Melee
      I would guess a melee PrE would be similar to Kensai, as they both focus on a particular type of weapon. I wouldn't be surprised to see a +1-2 to-hit and damage with a diety's favored weapon at each rank, a +1-2 bonus to a skill or two (maybe concentration?), and maybe some kind of special effect at tier 3.

      As for what I'd like to see - I'd like to see melee focused favored souls close the dps gap a bit with pure melee classes. I'm not necessarily saying that should happen, it's just what I think would be cool after a couple minutes of speculating. It's certainly possible that a large dps increase would simply make favored souls too powerful.

      Another possibility is adding effects like Superior Devotion/Potency when diety weapons are equipped. I say that simply because I get tired of switching between scimitars and scepters in the heat of battle to try and get a heal off or throw a blade barrier. This is not necessarily ideal for a PrE benefit as it can easily be solved through smart itemization, and may even be rendered impotent later on with the introduction of more powerful effects on better gear.

    2. Healing
      No idea here, as there are currently no healing PrEs in game from which to draw. This would probably grant additional spell points at each level, a +1-2 bonus to skills (heal?), as well as a percentage increase to the effectiveness of heals. Also maybe a percentage increase to the effectiveness of wands/scrolls? I don't have much speculation of my own here.

    3. Offensive Casting
      Once again, we have little currently in game from which to draw. Bonus spell points, +1-2 to skills (concentration?), +1-2 bonus to spell DCs, and maybe a percentage increase to damage? I've got little of my own speculation to add here.

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    Pious Templar (from Complete Divine) PrE would be cool for Melee FvSes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkat View Post
    Pious Templar (from Complete Divine) PrE would be cool for Melee FvSes.
    Pretend everyone doesnt have their COmplete Devine book sitting on their desk next to them.
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    They should give FVS a defense-oriented specialty like Sacred Oracle. That includes Evasion in any kind of armor, and would be specifically intended to make people feel dumb to have splashed Monk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelus_dead View Post
    They should give FVS a defense-oriented specialty like Sacred Oracle. That includes Evasion in any kind of armor, and would be specifically intended to make people feel dumb to have splashed Monk.
    Because only an Idiot would want Evasion AND an Offensive PrE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    Pretend everyone doesnt have their COmplete Devine book sitting on their desk next to them.
    I posted that at work, so I didn't have it next to me either.

    But, just so you know, Google is your friend:

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...q=f&oq=&aqi=g5

    Then the first choice at the top takes you here:

    http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x...040418a&page=2

    Thank you, come again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkat View Post
    I posted that at work, so I didn't have it next to me either.

    But, just so you know, Google is your friend:

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...q=f&oq=&aqi=g5

    Then the first choice at the top takes you here:

    http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x...040418a&page=2

    Thank you, come again.
    I think the point of the thread was How would you convert it to a DDO PrE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    I think the point of the thread was How would you convert it to a DDO PrE.
    Then you should have said that the first time instead of trying to be a smart aleck.
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    So, because Impaqt would like me to explain why a Pious Templar would make a great PrE for a Favored Soul, I'll try to list a few of the PT's Class Features and why I think it fits with FvS.

    1. Mettle - Kind of like Evasion but instead it works with Fort and Will Saves. Make your save against Disintegrate? No damage for you! Make your Will save versus Cause X Wounds or Harm? No damage for you! Should probably be available at Pious Templar I. I could see an argument for it being available at Pious Templar II though.

    2. Weapon Specialization - Sure FvSes already get that but it wouldn't be hard to call it something else and allow it to stack with FvS Weapon Specialization. An extra 2 pts of damage for a Melee FvS would always be appreciated! Should be available at Pious Templar II but I'd be ok with it being available at Pious Templar III.

    3. Smite - It's ok. More damage done by the FvS, albeit only a few times. Should probably be 1 time at Pious Templar I, 2 times at Pious Templar II, and 3 times at Pious Templar III.

    4. Damage Reduction - DR 2/x (whatever your Deity is) should be available at Pious Templar II and DR 4/x (whatever your Deity is) should be available at Pious Templar III and it should stack with the DR you get at Level 20. (yeah, I know it's not exactly like the DR a D&D Pious Templar gets but then again, we're playing DDO and not D&D). Perhaps DR 3/x & DR 6/x would be better? I'm not sure. I'm thinking of trying to balance it with the Warforged FvS DR (DR 10/Adamantine) at 20th.
    Last edited by Arkat; 09-14-2009 at 08:09 PM.
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