Help with my project: Survivor Cleric

[rsgeiger]

I am looking for a dex-based cleric, that needs to be able to solo. BattleClerics seem to be too cookie cutter. I know a Bard would also be a good fit for what I want to accomplish, but I like the Cleric spell selection better.

Here is what I am looking for:

1. Max 2 levels of non Cleric, or can be pure cleric but I think I might need to splash something to get what I want (just not sure what)
2. Must be able to hit things. I don't care that it is not the highest DPS tank out there (naturally), but I do want the weapon to connect enough for me to escape if I get mobed.
3. Must be able to get hit. I want to be able to still be standing after a surprise hit or two, without buffs in place. And from what I can tell late game is you cant depend on Full Plate to give you that sort of protection. So a dex based defense would be preferred. (But I could be very wrong about this; please correct me if I am)
4. Must be able to have some basic skills: Concentration, Jumping, Hiding/Move Silently and Tumble required. Haggle, UMD are highly sought seconds.
5. Is a caster first and foremost.
6. This is a 28 point, no Tomes build.

Yeah, I know I cant have it all but there must be something that can come close. I'm thinking a Ranger 2/ Cleric 18 build will work, and following along the lines of Impaqt's Rouge/Cleric build but I cant seem to figure out the right balance of feats and Enhancements. I'm still really new to DDO; The last DD game I did was NWN2.

For now, here is my current build:

Level 16 Human Male
(2 Ranger / 14 Cleric)
Hit Points: 270
20 Heroic Durability
112 L14 Cleric
16 L2 Ranger
48 16CON
10 Dragonic Vitality
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206
30 Greater False Life
18 Minos Legend
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254 Hit Points

Spell Points: 1490
80 Magical Training
600 L14 Cleric
85 Mental TOughness
85 Improved Mental TOughness
230 L12 Cleric Bonus WIS (28 WIS)
110 Energy of the Zealot
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1190 Spell Point
300 Shround Tier 3 Item (Skill Boosts per your Prefference in INT and/Or CHR skills)
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1490


BAB: 12/12/17/22

Fortitude:
Reflex:
Will:
9/4/9 L14 Cleric Base
3/3/0 L2 Ranger
4/6/9 Attribute Modifiers
4/4/4 Resistance Item
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20/17/22 Standing Saves
4/4/4 Greater Heroism
2/2/2 Recitation
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26/23/28 Self Buffed

Abilities
(32 Point)
{18}Strength_________12 +6DP/Item
{22}Dexterity_________14 +1 Human +1 Ranger +6Item
{16}Constitution_______10 +6Item
{22}Intelligence_______16 +6Item
{28}Wisdom___________15 +4Levels +3Clr +6 Item
{14}Charisma__________8 +6Item as needed

Tomes Used
NONE

Skills

{51/62}Move Silently
19Ranks +15Item +6Dex +1Enh = 49 +2Boost +4GH +3VB +2Luck = 59

{46/54}Hide
14Ranks +15Item +6Dex +1Enh = 43 +2Boost +4GH +2Luck = 51

{37/43}Concentration
11Ranks +15Item +9WIS +2ENH = 37 +4GH +2Luck = 43

Use Magic Device
19Ranks +2CHR +3Cartouse = 24

Level 1 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Hide (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: ???PointBlank Shot
Feat: ???Toughness
Favored Enemy: Undead

Level 2 (Cleric)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 3 (Cleric)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell

Level 4 (Cleric)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 5 (Cleric)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 6 (Cleric)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness

Level 7 (Cleric)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 8 (Cleric)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell

Level 9 (Ranger)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+7)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: Power Shot
Feat: TWF

Level 10 (Cleric)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 11 (Cleric)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 12 (Cleric)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell

Level 13 (Cleric)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 14 (Cleric)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 15 (Cleric)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness

Level 16 (Cleric)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Ranger Energy Resistence Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Energy Resistence Boost II
Enhancement: Ranger Energy Resistence Boost III
Enhancement: Ranger Energy Resistence Boost IV
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Dexterity I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot II
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot III
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot IV
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom III
Enhancement: Cleric Wand Mastery I
Enhancement: Cleric Wand Mastery II
Enhancement: Cleric Wand Mastery III
Enhancement: Cleric Wand Mastery IV

What do you think?
Thanks!

[Goldeneye]

18 FvS, 2 Monk, High WIS/CON/DEX, twf kamas!

[kuro_zero]

Is Drow an option for you?

18 Clr / 2 Mnk dual-wielding Rapiers and Cleric Divine Might could pump out some decent damage. You won't be centered, so no monk paths unless you swap to kamas, etc.

[rsgeiger]

I dont have Monk, FvS or Drow unlocked yet. And I'm sort of set on being human. I promise I'm not trying to be difficult, but is certainly a challange.

[Noctus]

So a dex based defense would be preferred. (But I could be very wrong about this; please correct me if I am)

Heavy armor or high DEX with robes, doesnt matter. AC is AC. Regardless of how you got there. There is only AC, and no such thing as a DEX-based defense in contrast with armor-based defense.

I am looking for a dex-based cleric, that needs to be able to solo. BattleClerics seem to be too cookie cutter. I know a Bard would also be a good fit for what I want to accomplish, but I like the Cleric spell selection better.

Here is what I am looking for:

1. Max 2 levels of non Cleric, or can be pure cleric but I think I might need to splash something to get what I want (just not sure what)
2. Must be able to hit things. I don't care that it is not the highest DPS tank out there (naturally), but I do want the weapon to connect enough for me to escape if I get mobed.
3. Must be able to get hit. I want to be able to still be standing after a surprise hit or two, without buffs in place. And from what I can tell late game is you cant depend on Full Plate to give you that sort of protection.
4. Must be able to have some basic skills: Concentration, Jumping, Hiding/Move Silently and Tumble required. Haggle, UMD are highly sought seconds.
5. Is a caster first and foremost.
6. This is a 28 point, no Tomes build.

Actually a Bard would fulfill your requirements much better than a Cleric. Bards get all the skills you would like to have, they get good defense in form of self-cast Displacement, can use Stoneskin wands to keep DR 10 all the time through UMD.
They have nice CC spells, healing capabilities and are able to fight properly. .


A rough proposal along this lines:

Bard 20, Spellinger PrE.

Strength 14
Dexterity 10
Constitution 14
Intelligence 12
Wisdom 8
Charisma 16 (all level ups in here)




Buff yourself with the Master´s Touch spell and use a nice 2-handed-weapon once you get Displacement. Before that use Rapiers / Shortswords / Longswords and Mitril Shields.

Feats:
1: Thoughness
3: Extend,
6: SF: Enchantment
9: Heighten
12: Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
15: Spell Penetration
18: Greater Spell Pen

[rsgeiger]

Actually a Bard would fulfill your requirements much better than a Cleric. Bards get all the skills you would like to have, they get good defense in form of self-cast Displacement, can use Stoneskin wands to keep DR 10 all the time through UMD.
They have nice CC spells, healing capabilities and are able to fight properly. .

Yeah, I figured on that, but I'll go for a power Bard build when I can unlock Drow and 32 point builds. But you are right in that it would be a better fit overall. Still want to try this though. Will most likely post my Char build idea sometime tomorrow.