What is up with the prices in the AH?

[Mhykke]

People that talk about "high prices" and "inflation" in DDO are usually confused.

There hasn't been "inflation" in DDO. In fact, there has been deflation. Want proof? How much does a vorpal weapon cost now, vs. a year or two ago? How much does a +5 mithral fullplate cost now, vs. 2 years ago? A banisher, a disrupter, ghost touch of greater undead bane, +6 stat items, etc. etc. The price of goods, on average, has plummeted in the game.

Do the newest, rarest item still cost an arm and a leg? Sure, but that's not inflation. The newest, rarest goods are always the most expensive, whatever place you're talking about.

As for the "lowbie twink" gear, that price has remained relatively stable, and fairly high. The price of great lowbie weapons and gear has always been fairly high, b/c those items have always been useful. The price of an "acid/pure good" weapon, or RR mithral fp for some, or very low min. level stat gear, has never been "cheap". Those things have always sold for premium prices. If people are complaining about 50-150k+ for good lowbie weapons now, that's easily what some were selling them for over a year ago.

[Velexia]

Really, people expecting upto half a million plat for a low lv Elemental weapon, not even a "Ghost Touched, X elemental of X ability", but just a plain old elemental weapon.

Also even the crappiest low end Mythral armor costs 150-250(is what they ask for, and that's on the cheap side, I've seen peaple asking millions for **** grade Mythral armour), this must be a joke, if they expect hundreds of thousands of plat for anything other then Fullplate grade armor or the occassional high enhancment half plate.

What's up, is this server full of Plat Farmers destroying the market or does this server natually suck to no end?

It has nothing to do with "plat farmers" and everything to do with veteran players. As veteran players, we know two things... Those level 2 weapons are extremely useful for starting new characters ahead of the curve, and people making new characters (veterans that is) have plenty of money to spare. I've sold level 2 pure good weapons for 3 million gold. That's just the way it is (sadly) on old servers. Try Cannith, it'll be much more to your liking (for now) =)

[Gwaelin]

el oh el. Do us all a favour, go to khyber then, you might fit in better if you think that. Your whining is pathetic especially you think you know everything without ever playing this game. I have at least 6 capped(well they were capped, now finishing toon 3 to 20) and Platnium is so easy to get its a joke, so when I see the +1 acid X of pure good min level 2 rr gimp on the ah for 250-500k plat... instant buy because that weapon will have my low level toon cruising through content at light speed - something that is worth it because low levels are boring, imo, and many others - and that is why prices are so high, because people know that and know plat is almsot meaningless to some people.

Oh, and by the by, I've played on khyber their prices are quite similar most times.

Lol, that's what you think, just because someone creates a new char, doesn't mean they're new(omg, that goes double for a D&D based game).

I had some wierd account stuff going on, to remedy it, I had to remake the char on Khyber, tranfered all the awesome equips from my old char to the new char= fixed, and a nice side effect is, I wont be forced to buy plats.

PS. Also another angle to that bogus inflation you people seem to think, is what happened, for that to be even remotely plauseable, no one in the past 2 years joined your server new.

Regular players(non plat farmers), once they get high level, they wouldn't even bother selling low lv equips in the AH(they'll keep some just incase they want to make a new char, other then that, they'll give them away or just off load them as fast as possible), because frankly, It's not worth the time to push the button, to post the item, however plat farmers will, no matter if they're at cap or not.

Unless there's over a million players on this server, there is no way, that there would be a natural amount of plats in existant, to warrant these price on low end equips(Plat farmers are pure evil, and anyone who buys from them, only helps destroy the game/server).

Well I'm moving on now, have a nice day

[DaveyCrockett]

Regular players(non plat farmers), once they get high level, they wouldn't even bother selling low lv equips in the AH(they'll keep some just incase they want to make a new char, other then that, they'll give them away or just off load them as fast as possible), because frankly, It's not worth the time to push the button, to post the item, however plat farmers will, no matter if they're at cap or not.

Unless there's over a million players on this server, there is no way, that there would be a natural amount of plats in existant, to warrant these price on low end equips(Plat farmers are pure evil, and anyone who buys from them, only helps destroy the game/server).

Well I'm moving on now, have a nice day

You've apparently mistaken this game for one that has plenty of activities available at end-game. Of course capped characters will take the time to 'push the button' to sell off lowbie gear. They have nothing else to do besides farm the same old quests, and stack plat for the next release.

If you have a problem with the server, then try some of the other ones, but arguing with veteran players of THIS server over the current economy of THIS server is just ... well, silly.

-DfC

[Elsbet]

Actually, we're all plat farmers and just want you to buy our overpriced garbage.

[KoboldKiller]

Actually, we're all plat farmers and just want you to buy our overpriced garbage.

Don't make me find more pictures.

[kaelis]

Lol, that's what you think, just because someone creates a new char, doesn't mean they're new(omg, that goes double for a D&D based game).

I had some wierd account stuff going on, to remedy it, I had to remake the char on Khyber, tranfered all the awesome equips from my old char to the new char= fixed, and a nice side effect is, I wont be forced to buy plats.

PS. Also another angle to that bogus inflation you people seem to think, is what happened, for that to be even remotely plauseable, no one in the past 2 years joined your server new.

Regular players(non plat farmers), once they get high level, they wouldn't even bother selling low lv equips in the AH(they'll keep some just incase they want to make a new char, other then that, they'll give them away or just off load them as fast as possible), because frankly, It's not worth the time to push the button, to post the item, however plat farmers will, no matter if they're at cap or not.

Unless there's over a million players on this server, there is no way, that there would be a natural amount of plats in existant, to warrant these price on low end equips(Plat farmers are pure evil, and anyone who buys from them, only helps destroy the game/server).

Well I'm moving on now, have a nice day

You can easily acquire 250+k plat in under a day of playing at cap. But you most times won't find that +1 acid of pure good weapon at cap, and not many people pull them levelign up in the weapon type they want/need - hence why they can sell.

[Thrudh]

What you don't understand is vet players have MILLIONS of plat sitting around with nothing to do with it. I have probably 5mil plat and I'm a casual player. A power gamer may have 10 times that.

A good low level twink item is worth 10x its face value in most cases, people use the cash they have to optimize their twinking during levelling. As for mithral, a good set of mith is worth far more than any regular armor at low to mid level for the dex builds and the builds restricted to light/med armor.

While there are unreasonable prices often posted, the prices you gave are actually fair for the market given the overabundance of cash. You don't need to be a plat farmer to have that amount of cash.

Don't like it? Cannith would be the only server without 3+ years of inflation.

What's weird though is that power-gamers with lots of money are also the ones that blow through the early levels...

I don't need +1 mithral full plate or a pure good weapon at level 2 to get to level 4 fast. Power gamers that could afford overpaying for that item don't need it either.

To the OP... remember just because an item is priced high on the AH doesn't mean it SELLS for that amount...

[Elsbet]

Don't make me find more pictures.

Grrr.....

[Lorien_the_First_One]

I have played for over 2 years and while I understand what the veterans are saying I have to agree the AH is out of control. Yes there are many people who are plat capped or at least have plenty of plat but that is the exact reason to NOT put huge prices for level 2 weapons, you don't need the money. We all talk about wanting a bigger player base yet that is one big turn off for new players trying to play this game and keep pace with the veterans (I know it frustrated me). If you don't need the plat why not put a reasonable price on theses items. I know some will argue "If I don't do it someone else will" but why not be above that? I do not put level 2 weapons on the AH for the most part but the few I have I have never put a 6 figure price on them. Most of the time I hand them out or bank them for future use. This is why I am enjoying Cannith, although I have noticed the power levelers are already putting some stupid prices on items. Sadly the economy over there will get out of whack as well. Greed is greed whether in a game or in life. *SIGH* Anyway that's my 2cp.

I used to be more reasonable on my twink items, i'd put them up for 2x base value so someone could enjoy them. Then I'd notice that they would get immediately bought out an reposted by AH resellers for 10x, so I don't do that anymore. Now I list for base price and buyout 2x to 10x the price, depending good the item is.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

What's weird though is that power-gamers with lots of money are also the ones that blow through the early levels...

I don't need +1 mithral full plate or a pure good weapon at level 2 to get to level 4 fast. Power gamers that could afford overpaying for that item don't need it either.

To the OP... remember just because an item is priced high on the AH doesn't mean it SELLS for that amount...

While true they don't NEED it, power gamers seem to want every +1 they can get at every point in the game.

[Aranticus]

Natural inflation what, accounts for maybe a 5% increase per year "tops", things are upwards of 10x or more overpriced. Also, you're very wrong, do everyone a favor, before posting saying this is natural, and that any server here this long would be simular, perhaps next time check the other servers first lol. Also, I played games that have been around for much longer then this game, and while the market may be off at times, It's never anything to this extent.

It's Plat Farmers, that cuases markets to end up like this. Also just to point out a server in much better shape, that Isn't new, I suggest you check out Kyber.

PS. Ironically enough, I already started getting spam mail from plat farmers, and mod 9 just came out(just another business day for them heh), the inflation on this server is natural my ***.

i'm from khyber, i just put some twinked item on AH to see if it sells. lets wait 3 days

[KoboldKiller]

I used to be more reasonable on my twink items, i'd put them up for 2x base value so someone could enjoy them. Then I'd notice that they would get immediately bought out an reposted by AH resellers for 10x, so I don't do that anymore. Now I list for base price and buyout 2x to 10x the price, depending good the item is.

True enough. I haven't posted anything on the AH in quite some time. Been hoarding most of my stuff or giving it out. Your point is valid though, most reasonably priced items do end up being bought and re-posted.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Regular players(non plat farmers), once they get high level, they wouldn't even bother selling low lv equips in the AH(they'll keep some just incase they want to make a new char, other then that, they'll give them away or just off load them as fast as possible), because frankly, It's not worth the time to push the button, to post the item, however plat farmers will, no matter if they're at cap or not.

Not true, they wont sell +4 sword of something good with something stupid, but they will sell a good twink item knowing it will fetch at best 30% at a broker and up to 1000% at AH. That's one way some players accumulate money.

Unless there's over a million players on this server, there is no way, that there would be a natural amount of plats in existant, to warrant these price on low end equips()

You clearly haven't been playing this game long. Do you have any idea how much plat you can make just by selling what you get at vendors after an hour in the Vale or RR? I sell everything worth less than 100K gold at the closest vendor, more expensive stuff goes to my bard for sale. Just counting the stuff that reaches my bard, I easily bring in 50,000 plat per week, often double that - and I only play a couple hours a week. And that's without selling a single "good" item on the AH, that's just selling stuff to the broker. For people that play 6 hours a night (and a surprising number do...) money in DDO is free.

[Thrudh]

While true they don't NEED it, power gamers seem to want every +1 they can get at every point in the game.

What I mean was... I doubt they get from 2 to 4 any quicker with +1 mithral full plate than without....

[Elsbet]

You clearly haven't been playing this game long. Do you have any idea how much plat you can make just by selling what you get at vendors after an hour in the Vale or RR? I sell everything worth less than 100K gold at the closest vendor, more expensive stuff goes to my bard for sale. Just counting the stuff that reaches my bard, I easily bring in 50,000 plat per week, often double that - and I only play a couple hours a week. And that's without selling a single "good" item on the AH, that's just selling stuff to the broker. For people that play 6 hours a night (and a surprising number do...) money in DDO is free.

QFT.

I very rarely post anything to the AH. I vendor most stuff or let my bard vendor it. Last week I made 500k plat on my bard alone.

[Saaluta]

OP, one thing you might want to remember as well, is the prices you see when you look at the listing are in gold, when most of us post the items, we set the price in platinum. Thus always take off the last zero if you want to see what it is actually being posted at. I already have enough twink gear to run 3-4 characters, so whenever I pull another +1 mith bp or fp, I will throw it on there for buyout of 20-30k pp so as to gt a fast sale and be able to buy more scrolls/wands/potions for my characters. But when you look at it, it will show 200-300 k gp, I think this is part of what may be confusing about AH prices.

Anyway, have a great day, and I hoped this helped a little bit

Saal

[Delt]

The only thing to really buy between 1-6 is a good twink weapon. Maybe...maybe some armor...depends on build.

If someone coming back to the game had old Star of Irian ml 2, I'd offer 20mil...chances are, someone else would beat that offer... Plat farmers have nothing to do with it.

[Grahalyan]

Lol, that's what you think, just because someone creates a new char, doesn't mean they're new(omg, that goes double for a D&D based game).

I had some wierd account stuff going on, to remedy it, I had to remake the char on Khyber, tranfered all the awesome equips from my old char to the new char= fixed, and a nice side effect is, I wont be forced to buy plats.

PS. Also another angle to that bogus inflation you people seem to think, is what happened, for that to be even remotely plauseable, no one in the past 2 years joined your server new.

Regular players(non plat farmers), once they get high level, they wouldn't even bother selling low lv equips in the AH(they'll keep some just incase they want to make a new char, other then that, they'll give them away or just off load them as fast as possible), because frankly, It's not worth the time to push the button, to post the item, however plat farmers will, no matter if they're at cap or not.

Unless there's over a million players on this server, there is no way, that there would be a natural amount of plats in existant, to warrant these price on low end equips(Plat farmers are pure evil, and anyone who buys from them, only helps destroy the game/server).

Well I'm moving on now, have a nice day

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[Donnie]

Really, people expecting upto half a million plat for a low lv Elemental weapon, not even a "Ghost Touched, X elemental of X ability", but just a plain old elemental weapon.

Also even the crappiest low end Mythral armor costs 150-250(is what they ask for, and that's on the cheap side, I've seen peaple asking millions for **** grade Mythral armour), this must be a joke, if they expect hundreds of thousands of plat for anything other then Fullplate grade armor or the occassional high enhancment half plate.

What's up, is this server full of Plat Farmers destroying the market or does this server natually suck to no end?

Complaining isnt going to get you anywhere. Learn the game, learn the trends, make the profit. Its that simple.